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Redemption after Atheism
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KingDubya
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Redemption after Atheism

*is wondering if such a thing exists*


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What is Atheism?

Is a Buddhist an Atheist?


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Your first question mainly depends on what you BELIEVE atheism is (well, that's what I think). The second is a question that few can answer, and even fewer can answer correctly.


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Originally posted by KingDubya
Your first question mainly depends on what you BELIEVE atheism is (well, that's what I think). The second is a question that few can answer, and even fewer can answer correctly.


That is why I asked the questions. I have a bad habit of doing that.


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is why I asked the questions. I have a bad habit of doing that.

I've read your other posts, and I can tell.


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Originally posted by KingDubya
I've read your other posts, and I can tell.


laughing

You have me at a fair advantage. laughing


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The Lord said it, and that settles it! LOL!

..... Redeemed Us to God by Thy Blood out of Every Kindred, and Tongue, and People, and Nation; [Revelation 5:9]

Be merciful, O LORD, unto thy people Israel, whom thou hast Redeemed, and lay not innocent blood unto Thy People of Israel's charge. And the blood shall be Forgiven Them. [Deuteronomy 21:8 ]


But not as the offence, so also is the FREE GIFT. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the GIFT by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the GIFT: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the FREE GIFT is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the GIFT of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the FREE GIFT came upon ALL men unto justification of life. [Romans 5:15-18]


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Hey, where are our Atheists?

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Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
The Lord said it, and that settles it! LOL!

..... Redeemed Us to God by Thy Blood out of Every Kindred, and Tongue, and People, and Nation; [Revelation 5:9]

Be merciful, O LORD, unto thy people Israel, whom thou hast Redeemed, and lay not innocent blood unto Thy People of Israel's charge. And the blood shall be Forgiven Them. [Deuteronomy 21:8 ]


But not as the offence, so also is the FREE GIFT. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the GIFT by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the GIFT: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the FREE GIFT is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the GIFT of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the FREE GIFT came upon ALL men unto justification of life. [Romans 5:15-18]


Happy Dance


*wonders if svnthdysthsbbth has the bible memorized, or has it sitting right next to him/herself*


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Originally posted by debbiejo
Hey, where are our Atheists?


You see a former one right here. But I'm not necessarily Christian. I'm just asking other people what they think about it.


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Why someone even care if there is redemption after atheism, I would ask if There is redemption after being christian ?


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Well, my Christian friends keep telling me that atheism is such an awful sin, that I'm going to go to hell for it. So, I'm asking if there is redemption for atheists.


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Well, my Christian friends keep telling me that atheism is such an awful sin, that I'm going to go to hell for it. So, I'm asking if there is redemption for atheists.


You are an atheist who is wondering if there is redemption for not believing in a God. eek! laughing


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Well if you look in one of the other threads, I said that I believe in all gods and no gods. So I am no longer atheist, but I am not of any religion, really. I was born a Christian, but all religions make perfect sense to me. I am beginning to wonder if there are others in the world whose religious views are similar to mine.


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Originally posted by KingDubya
*is wondering if such a thing exists*

What are you asking?

If an atheist becomes a Christian, will he be saved?
If an atheist dies, will he be allowed into heaven?

To be blunt, the answer to the first question is 'yes'. The answer to the second question is 'no'.


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And you are certain of that?...Would you bet your soul on it?

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Iīm not of any religion, I donīt associate spirituality to religion, sometimes is even difficult to associate God concept with religion. They have too stupid, and limited concepts about that, but I do believe in a God or some metaphysical concept like it, but for me its better to reach this God concept, not from religion. Religions many times make you blindly believe God, but I prefer to think about it philosophically and try to give it a sense... you know.. its the only way to understand something for me.


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Originally posted by FeceMan
What are you asking?

If an atheist becomes a Christian, will he be saved?
If an atheist dies, will he be allowed into heaven?

To be blunt, the answer to the first question is 'yes'. The answer to the second question is 'no'.


That's pretty simple, but I'm talking in a deeper sense that few would begin to understand. Not just believing that no god exists, but being of a religion and wondering if anything you believe is true. We only say that what we believe is true because we have been told that by other people. If a new religion popped up out of nowhere and people started believeing it, that's only becuase the creator of the religion told them it was true. If any one of you says that they are 100% sure that their religion is 100% true, I will track you down and slap you in the face for saying such nonsense.

And I'm completely serious about that. There is no way anyone can be 100% sure about their religion.


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Well, my Christian friends keep telling me that atheism is such an awful sin, that I'm going to go to hell for it. So, I'm asking if there is redemption for atheists.
it`s a christian belief that all who seak salvation in their christ should gain redemption regardless of their past........................
if atheist get redemption if YOU believe it well who`s to say otherwise.
An atheist wouldnt care about it though

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Re: Redemption after Atheism

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*is wondering if such a thing exists*

Don't worry the Atheist god still loves you... big grin
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I was born a Christian.

No one is born a Christian. A religion is not genetic.
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If an atheist becomes a Christian, will he be saved?
If an atheist dies, will he be allowed into heaven?
To be blunt, the answer to the first question is 'yes'. The answer to the second question is 'no'.

So simplistic. So Christianity does not judge one by their deeds but by what they are at face value. What about a Christian rapist vs an atheist humanitarian relief worker?


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