Can somebody also please do this thread gauntlet for Marka Ragnos:
He gets 30 seconds in between each fight.
1) Yoda and Mace Windu.
2) Darth Bane and Lord Kaan.
3) Thon, Odun-Urr, Arca Jeth and Vodo-Siosk Bass.
4) Ulic Quel-Droma, Aleema and Exar Kun.
5) Freedon Nadd and Ludo Kressh.
6) Naga Sadow and Lord Simus (full body Simus).
7) DN Luke and DN Kyp Durron.
8) Darth Revan, Darth traya and The jedi exile.
9) 20 Taranteks and 5 fully grown Leviathans + 1 mutated rancor.
10) Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus.
All fights take place in temple training room apart from #9 which takes place in an open field in Ruusan.
And they aren't for a good reason, these threads are incredibly dumb... We have no way of knowing if Ragnos could do this, i'm guessing he could. But I simply can not be sure, for all we know he was just barely better then Sadow.
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If he was barely better than Sadow, then Sadow would have tried to overthrow him with some help. We know Sadow feared him so we could logically assume he was a lot better than Sado.
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But who would have helped him? The ones he'd ask would know that Sadow would take the thrown as a leader instead and possibly kill him, or they belived that Sadow could not stand up to Ragnos at all (though he might have been able)and were too afraid. And Ragnos did a pretty good job as the lord, so why would they?.
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That is what I'm saying. You are right we cannot fathom how powerful Ragnos was compared to Sadow, but we do know that he was a lot more powerful than him. If your ruler is slightly stronger than you, then you would try to overthrow him somehow. When your ruler is much more powerful than you, the thoughts cross your mind but that's as far as it goes, you fear and respect your leader, and Sadow feared and respected Ragnos
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I agree but do we know that Sadow didn't ask anyone, mabey he did but they turned him down? Vader feared and respected Sidious but when Luke came he wanted to overthrow him.
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Well if they turned Sadow down they had a good reason for it, and that reason would logically be fear. Like they fear everything else, about Ragnos. And for a damned good reason too.
Oh, I don't know, maybe Sadow and his billion and a half Massassi slaves?
Did you read Golden Age of the Sith? Did you notice how many times Sadow backstabbed the Sith for power? Did you notice how flagrantly his ideology differed from Marka Ragnos? Why would he bow before Marka Ragnos yet blatantly manipulate, cheat, and backstab his way to Dark Lord over guys like Simus or Kressh?
Because Marka Ragnos is significantly better than him. The quotes we have on that prove that point.
You have no proof. Quotes don't mean shit. Uthar Wyn said that Naga Sadow was the greatest of all of the ancient sith, so if you are going to disregard that quote than you cannot use ones that say that Ragnos was the greatest. And there could have been many reasons why sadow didn't try to overthrow Ragnos. You cannot speculate and make assumptions (even if you think they are very logical and accurate) if you call anybody else who does ignorant or a bad debater of fanboy or whatever other insults you have.
Uthar Wynn is a fallible character from a video game. The quotes stating Ragnos as the most powerful of the most powerful are from the omniscient, infallible narrator. Ergo, they're a little more valid than the opinions of a Sith pretender.
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