Sephiroth or Link?
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Sephiroth
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Link
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Burning thought
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It still is, a couple of scenes or artwork does not actually change it....ime sure theres LOK artwork out there that looks cartoony.
Overall LOZ has a childish look. Twilight princess being one of the few games that has a diffrence to this idea.
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Jul 15th, 2009 08:34 PM
Sin_Volvagia
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Burning thought
It still is, a couple of scenes or artwork does not actually change it....ime sure theres LOK artwork out there that looks cartoony.
Overall LOZ has a childish look. Twilight princess being one of the few games that has a diffrence to this idea.
Explain how LoZ (original), Adventure of Link, and Link to the Past are childish.
The only cartoony Zelda games are Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and all those Four Swords adventures. I've played all the console Zeldas (minus Wind Waker) so I know what I'm talking about.
Jul 15th, 2009 08:43 PM
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ok which one of those you posted was attributed to the games you just mentioned as not necesserily childish? because quite recently ive looked through tonnes of Zelda images and material, and the fact is most of them seem cartoony, bright, overly comedic etc to me, maybe its either because ime used to fully adult rated games like GOW and LoK or I dont know which Zelda is which since there are so many, I know that I posted a very good comparison of Majoras mask and Soul reaver earlier.
If the 3 games you mentioned are those 2d ones then its hard to say tbh...
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Jul 15th, 2009 08:46 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Burning thought
ok which one of those you posted was attributed to the games you just mentioned as not necesserily childish? because quite recently ive looked through tonnes of Zelda images and material, and the fact is most of them seem cartoony, bright, overly comedic etc to me, maybe its either because ime used to fully adult rated games like GOW and LoK or I dont know which Zelda is which since there are so many, I know that I posted a very good comparison of Majoras mask and Soul reaver earlier.
If the 3 games you mentioned are those 2d ones then its hard to say tbh...
Yep those were 2D games.
As for your comparison, don't make me laugh. Though I do have to admit that Majora's Mask was a bit on the sunny side (that's if you ignore the story).
Jul 15th, 2009 08:53 PM
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BT thinks He's all grown up because he plays adult rated games exclusively. A little insecure? Afraid to enjoy something rated E? =P
If you ignore the story in MM you'll have no idea what you're doing. o: I loved that game.
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Jul 15th, 2009 08:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Yep those were 2D games.
As for your comparison, don't make me laugh. Though I do have to admit that Majora's Mask was a bit on the sunny side (that's if you ignore the story).
What you dont think Soul reaver looks more adult, mature etc in design than that Majora image I showed you?
The story is irrelvent since for a target audiance, although ime sure if I knew it I would be able to debate against it.
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Jul 15th, 2009 08:57 PM
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It's my job to beat children!
Oh, wait, I quit. The hours I worked merit a lot more than what they paid me.
Carry on.
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Jul 15th, 2009 09:04 PM
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Link should never accept dares because Sephiroth just told him to go kick a chicken. Huge mistake.
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Jul 16th, 2009 06:07 AM
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You don't get the joke, do you?
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Jul 16th, 2009 06:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You don't get the joke, do you?
In the Zelda games Link carelessly kicks chickens and in the strip they had just about enough of it. That's the joke right?
Jul 16th, 2009 06:28 AM
MooCowofJustice
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The joke is that you should always be kind to barnyard animals. Otherwise we will kill you.
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Jul 16th, 2009 06:52 AM
Ret Chazoz
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Toon Link could beat Sephiroth..
Toon would stop time, stab Seph in the face, so he can`t do this 'will' BS. AND TOON LINK SUCZ COMPARED TO OTHER LINKS!
OoT Link would stomp and obliterate Seph.
The same wat Toon would.
Btw,
Link>Sora>Cloud>Sephoroth.
Why are Sora and Cloud before Seph i wounder...
Oh yeah, Cause Cloud killed Seph, and Sora kicked Sephs ass 2 times,
Im pretty sure Link could take Sora and Cloud at the same time.
Link can lift over 1000 tons,
He can dodge attacks at the speed of sound,
he essentially controls time,
Master Sword protects him from death curses, jynx's etc.
Seph kills a giant snake, big deal,
Link kills Volvagia,
A heavily armored dragon about the same size.
Strength..
Goron Link is epic strong enough..
Gorons>Hylean strength..
Except for Link's of corse, For TP Link beats a massive goron with his bare hands!
Jul 24th, 2009 03:54 AM
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..OMFG YOU NOOB DX LET THIS THREAD DIEEEE
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Jul 24th, 2009 03:55 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ret Chazoz
Toon Link could beat Sephiroth..
Toon would stop time, stab Seph in the face, so he can`t do this 'will' BS. AND TOON LINK SUCZ COMPARED TO OTHER LINKS!
OoT Link would stomp and obliterate Seph.
The same wat Toon would.
Btw,
Link>Sora>Cloud>Sephoroth.
Why are Sora and Cloud before Seph i wounder...
Oh yeah, Cause Cloud killed Seph, and Sora kicked Sephs ass 2 times,
Im pretty sure Link could take Sora and Cloud at the same time.
Link can lift over 1000 tons,
He can dodge attacks at the speed of sound,
he essentially controls time,
Master Sword protects him from death curses, jynx's etc.
Seph kills a giant snake, big deal,
Link kills Volvagia,
A heavily armored dragon about the same size.
Strength..
Goron Link is epic strong enough..
Gorons>Hylean strength..
Except for Link's of corse, For TP Link beats a massive goron with his bare hands!
KH Sephiroth is not FFVII Sephiroth and his feats and appearance in those games are not canon.
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Jul 24th, 2009 03:56 AM
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/headdesk. This didn't need to be revived. @_@; I'm gonna knife him in his sleep. <_<;
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Jul 24th, 2009 03:58 AM
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POOOOOOOOORQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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Jul 24th, 2009 04:09 AM
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Damn, I was looking for the evil laugh when I came across this:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Burning thought
No you see no wonder you misunderstood it and thought it was a joke, you dont understand what target audience is, theres no way the opinion of someone who has played all the games can have the same view as someone who is a new customer or a target audience, they could easily outline the game as adult simply because they like it, or have bias because they enjoy the game a lot which is obvious in Screampastes case.
On the other hand, not having played any of the games but obviously seen all the advertisement, I can see without any knowledge of the actual game or its content (e.g. ime at the knowledge of the audience to the game before actually playing it, so I have a better grasp of what they would be targetting at rather than simply assuming its my age group, you would have to understand that the deeper content of the game is not necessarily what is made to appeal to an audience or intended customer e.g. kids/adult)
Screampaste, Nemo and anyone who has played the game would have the knowledge of the whole games that they have played in the series, which means they would be talking from a perspective of actually knowing whats in the game, which of course is the opposite to the intended audience because they would not know, on base value to give a few examples youve got main characters of games, lets choose Kratos from God of war and Link quite naturally, Link is a pointy eared typical hero with bright green clothes and in a lot of the games is a child which of course such a character is hardly made for mature audience or adult generation especially in comparison to Kratos, Dante, Kain etc
Also the intended audience, looking at two screenshots below, as a customer what would you off hand say is more mature looking:
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This is a random screenshot, it says its Majoras mask but whatever it is, its a LoZ game, notice the bright colours, a fairly cartoonish tone to everything, everythings built for eye catching or comedic value, eye catching so that young children like the colours, link being a child like them would also likely draw them in.
Then we have:
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God of War, which obviously, its far more serious in nature, dark tones, dark characters. Theres no flashy looking cartoony objects, not in the graphics or the heads up display or interface, the character reeking of burtality, vegeance and violence is one of the immediate and obvious mature themes but the whole graphic style tells you which of the two games is aimed at adults, and which is aimed at younger gamers.
You saw the quotation marks right? sarcasm....
bright as in, light colours to catch the eye, twilight princess looking at it may be an exception, ime not really sure but Majoras mask if the image above is from that game is not "dark"..lol a more mature game series than DMC and GOW? explain this statement...your saying just because its got a better story? or a harder puzzle?
I'll admit, I only saw BT's initial question of comparing audience for the two screenshots, but it's enough.
BT, it's not even close to ****ing fair to compare a two generation old game's graphics to state of the art, so anything you might have to say is just null and void right there. Now, if you had picked a screen shot of another rather violent...I'm sorry "mature" game, that came from the same era, then you might've had a valid argument. Fail, sir.
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Jul 24th, 2009 04:17 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by XanatosForever
Damn, I was looking for the evil laugh when I came across this:
I'll admit, I only saw BT's initial question of comparing audience for the two screenshots, but it's enough.
BT, it's not even close to ****ing fair to compare a two generation old game's graphics to state of the art, so anything you might have to say is just null and void right there. Now, if you had picked a screen shot of another rather violent...I'm sorry "mature" game, that came from the same era, then you might've had a valid argument. Fail, sir.
Like Conker's Bad Fur Day?
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Jul 24th, 2009 04:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Like Conker's Bad Fur Day?
That'll work nicely.
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Jul 24th, 2009 04:23 AM
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Why did you have to wake up a 100+ behemoth of a thread?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ret Chazoz
Toon Link could beat Sephiroth..
Toon would stop time, stab Seph in the face, so he can`t do this 'will' BS. AND TOON LINK SUCZ COMPARED TO OTHER LINKS!
Don't know much about WW Link so let's move along...
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OoT Link would stomp and obliterate Seph.
The same wat Toon would.
OoT Link won't be able to tag Sephiroth due to his speed.
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Btw,
Link>Sora>Cloud>Sephoroth.
Why are Sora and Cloud before Seph i wounder...
Oh yeah, Cause Cloud killed Seph, and Sora kicked Sephs ass 2 times,
Im pretty sure Link could take Sora and Cloud at the same time.
KH Sephiroth isn't the FF7 Sephiroth. BTW, Sora never truly defeated him anyway. Both Sora and Cloud would give Link a fight but at the same time? Link dies.
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He can dodge attacks at the speed of sound,
No proof that he can.
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Seph kills a giant snake, big deal,
Link kills Volvagia,
A heavily armored dragon about the same size.
Sephiroth killed a dragon effortlessly. The 30ft snake must've been killed effortlessly too though it was impaled on a spike and without it being sliced into pieces. Link had to put up a fight against Volvagia and that Twili dragon (who would've been killed much faster by Sephiroth).
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Strength..
Goron Link is epic strong enough..
Goron Link is even slower than a normal Link and would be killed much easier.
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