You seem to think that I don't believe in God because I lack answers to what are some very basic questions.
But I don't believe simply because it has never been proven. That is the definition of a myth. If there was a clear answer in the bible as to why God made us curious by nature but also demands faith..it wouldn't suddenly make me think God is real. God is in the exact same category as people like Zeus or Poseidon.
You behave as if his existence is fact and yet for that to be the case we'd need concrete evidence. I don't think even the most loyal religious person would think we have anything that qualifies as scientific evidence for the existence of God. The best I've seen people come up with is "the universe is like..totally unique and special, how could this not be done on purpose?"
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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The questions and answers aren't basic. I think you already don't believe in God and then choose to justify it by having ridiculously simplistic answers to said questions.
Oh sure it has, just certain events that were deemed God are now called science (not that I'm refuting science). The giving of the Torah that was witnessed not just by Jews, but by all other people, etc. You're simply saying "I wasn't there or it was too long ago for any kind of proof, therefore it's a myth."
Btw, here are the definitions for myth, none of which are applicable here:
No, I behave as though I believe in his existence, and neither his existence nor lack thereof has been proven on any level, so when you spout words like "myth", you come off as ignorant.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
"Myth n 1.
(Classical Myth & Legend) a. a story about superhuman beings of an earlier age taken by preliterate society to be a true account, usually of how natural phenomena, social customs, etc, came into existence b. another word for mythology 1 , mythology 3
2.
A person or thing whose existence is fictional or unproven
3.
(Literary & Literary Critical Terms) (in modern literature) a theme or character type embodying an idea: Hemingway's myth of the male hero.
4.
(Philosophy) philosophy (esp in the writings of Plato) an allegory or parable"
So, the story of god as we know it is, by definition, a myth.
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Biggest myth of all-time: Apes turning into humans. Only an idiot would believe that nonsense.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Last edited by Star428 on Oct 6th, 2015 at 04:28 PM
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
Both Christianity and Islam acknowledge the Mt. Sinai event.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
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Well, yeah, but you see how that's not really a very good source, right? Since they are basically off-shoots of Judaism. Are there any not biased, and particularly primary sources that acknowledge that event? Because as far as I can tell both Christianity and Islam have come many hundred years later and really just use the same source and say it's true.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
None of what you just said proved the existence of God. I'm not saying this because I wasn't there, I'm saying this because there isn't any actual proof. Now..might there of been some historical truth to some of the stuff mentioned in the bible? Sure, but that doesn't mean it shows God existed.
If you want to make the claim something is real you need proof.
You literally just said "oh sure it has" in response to me saying God hasn't been proven. You then label me as ignorant without the slightest hint of irony.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Last edited by Surtur on Oct 6th, 2015 at 08:38 PM
It doesn't mean God is a myth either, which is precisely my point.
I'm not trying to convince you God is real, but you're trying to convince people he is a myth, so the burden of proof really lies on you.
Yes, the irony is I responded with the exact way you've been responding except you feel your post has somehow more merit.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
not sure if you are serious right now or not,
so why do YOU believe it is a lie then in comparison to more proof being in favor of Darwin's theory of evolution
Evolution is not fact based. Where are the intermediate species in the fossil record? No missing links have been found to my knowledge. Evolution is just a theory. I see no evidence of macroevolution happening today.
yes but it has more concrete evidence pointing in its direction. i am not saying its absolute but it is closer to answering things then the religions i know and follow
I'm not going to keep arguing the same shit over and over with you atheistic fools because it's pointless. You just keep repeating the same shit over and over without showing a shred of proof to back up your ridiculous claims. Evolution is nothing but a "scientific" (LOL) theory. Nothing else. The entire theory of evolution is based on nothing but unfounded and unwarranted assumptions because scientists who support it are horrified at the alternative to evolution theory. I suggest you check out a book by Stephen A Khoch called "The Assumptions Behind the Theory of Evolution". It will open your eyes. You can pick it up on Amazon but it's a bit pricey. If you don't have the money then you can download an abridged version for free. Just do a google search for it. The guy isn't a scientist but he doesn't use the Bible either in his arguments. He's totally unbiased.
And, do you really think a God would lower Himself to have offspring with the offspring of an ape? Even if she was a true virgin (as Mary was)?Anyone who believes such nonsense might as well be spitting in His face. That's how much of an insult it is to Him. Sorry,but no, I will never believe that no matter what ANY of you or ANY "scientist" says. Mary was a descendant of Adam and Eve not some animal.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
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