h1a8
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Glads wins by bfr.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:34 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Gladiator got stalemated by this version of thor, who fought juggernaut
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Not true.
Gladiator was stalemated by Masterson Thor who is > Thunderstrike.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:36 PM
leonidas
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sans bfr juggs wrecks him.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:41 PM
juggernaut74
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Gladiator had a hard time trying to beat up Captain America's shield, Juggy will be harder to beat.
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Dec 11th, 2011 09:44 PM
nwg202
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with bfr Gladiator. w/o bfr juggernaut.
Dec 12th, 2011 02:35 PM
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Dec 12th, 2011 04:06 PM
Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Gladiator moves planets, rips stars
jugs lifts trucks , and houses big difference in power.
You think the height of his strength is being able to lift trucks and houses?
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Dec 12th, 2011 04:11 PM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not true.
Gladiator was stalemated by Masterson Thor who is > Thunderstrike.
I thought Thunderstrike was Masterson Thor but just under a different name?
Did Masterson get a power downgrade when becoming Thunderstrike? If so, then how do we know (comic explained it?)
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Dec 12th, 2011 05:01 PM
carver9
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Thunderstrike and Masterson are two different beings.
By the way...Gladiator was ripping through Masterson.
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Dec 12th, 2011 05:21 PM
Magnon
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Stalemate. Gladiator doesn't have any attacks which could harm Juggs, and Juggs isn't fast enough to tag Gladiator. Juggernaut's enchantments allow him to retain his momentum and be untouchable, which make it impossible to bfr him by physical means.
Dec 12th, 2011 05:32 PM
Ptr_Grifin
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
I thought Thunderstrike was Masterson Thor but just under a different name?
Did Masterson get a power downgrade when becoming Thunderstrike? If so, then how do we know (comic explained it?)
Masterson Thor had Mjölnir and was pretty much Thor. Thunderstrike had a far inferior hammer made just for him and was nowhere near Thor's power class.
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Dec 12th, 2011 06:15 PM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Masterson Thor had Mjölnir and was pretty much Thor. Thunderstrike had a far inferior hammer made just for him and was nowhere near Thor's power class.
What evidence in the comic that Odin made him a hammer more inferior? Even if that is the case then that has no bearing on his power (strength level, etc.).
Remember the comic has to explicitly explain that he was weaker than Masterson Thor. Otherwise, we are using speculation against the writer's intentions.
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Dec 12th, 2011 10:08 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
What evidence in the comic that Odin made him a hammer more inferior? Even if that is the case then that has no bearing on his power (strength level, etc.).
Remember the comic has to explicitly explain that he was weaker than Masterson Thor. Otherwise, we are using speculation against the writer's intentions.
Because the mace he got, Thunderstrike, his namesake, is decidedly inferior to Mjolnir? Eric also mentioned several times that as Thunderstrike, he wasn't as powerful as he was when he was "the real deal".
Statements, feats, and portrayals all point to Thor > Masterson Thor > Thunderstrike.
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Dec 12th, 2011 10:35 PM
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Without bfr Gladiator gets easily destroyed.
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Dec 12th, 2011 10:38 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Gladiator moves planets, rips stars
jugs lifts trucks , and houses big difference in power.
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Dec 13th, 2011 12:43 AM
killer_creed
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nwg202
with bfr Gladiator. w/o bfr juggernaut.
This is the answer.
Dec 13th, 2011 01:19 AM
zeel
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Glads wins by bfr.
that is the only way glads can win is by BFR.
Dec 13th, 2011 03:45 AM
Stoic
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if Gladiator met Juggernaut for the first time, and they fought Juggernaut would likely kill him. My reasoning is this. When Gladiator hits Cain with his best, and sees it does squat to him, his whole ego bubble would go to hell, leaving him open for the big bully beat down. Gladiator's biggest weapon is his confidence.
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Dec 13th, 2011 10:16 AM
h1a8
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because the mace he got, Thunderstrike, his namesake, is decidedly inferior to Mjolnir? Eric also mentioned several times that as Thunderstrike, he wasn't as powerful as he was when he was "the real deal".
Statements, feats, and portrayals all point to Thor > Masterson Thor > Thunderstrike.
Ok if Eric said he wasn't as powerful (power wise and not knowledge wise) then I can accept that.
But I wasn't really concerned with the mace being inferior to Mjolnir but rather Eric's power/strength level as Thunderstrike vs. when he was Thor.
But are you sure he meant that (strength being weaker)?
You have any issue numbers or scans (I do believe you I just want to make sure of the context).
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Dec 14th, 2011 12:37 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Ok if Eric said he wasn't as powerful (power wise and not knowledge wise) then I can accept that.
But I wasn't really concerned with the mace being inferior to Mjolnir but rather Eric's power/strength level as Thunderstrike vs. when he was Thor.
But are you sure he meant that (strength being weaker)?
You have any issue numbers or scans (I do believe you I just want to make sure of the context).
His whole power set was weaker..
Masterson Thor actually had Mjolnir and the power of Thor, but just did not have the knowledge to use it as effectively as Thor can.
Thuderstrikes power came from his maze which was a second rate Mjolnir (if that)..
Thunderstrike is to Thor what Superboy is to Superman (if that)..
He could not even take Hydroman. Spiderman actually commented Thunderstrike was out of his league with Hydroman.
Dec 14th, 2011 02:26 PM
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