He probably was told to lose, don't think he was expecting Pulp...I mean Palpatine to make Anakin kill him though, hence the schocked look on his face before beheading.
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Thats funny, killed becuz he was obeying orders and fighting without his form 2. Dooku is far more superior to anakin in force powers. funny how he dident use any on him. Anakin was the victor, because when dooku realized it was already to late to make a comeback, and he was shocked by the words sidous was saying, "kill him, dont be afraid of that power, use it"
Lets forget about the prophecy and chosen one crap for a minuite.
A jedi knight against a very powerul sith master, who was just as good as yoda and mace. Enough said.
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whoa buddy i dont know about that now. dooku is far better then general grievous, are you serious. dooku taught him to use the lightsaber. and if you have seen the clone wars mirco series second season. grievous gets a nice shaming in their little sparring match. and yoda. well i think dooku is better but thats jus my opinion.
Where are you all getting this "Palpy told Dooku to lose!" thing? It's rather silly. Anakin had improved drastically during the Clone Wars; Dooku lost a fair fight, not a fight where he was wimping out.
Akbar, you can't forget the Chosen One thing; that's the whole point of the PT.
Dooku less powerful than Grievous, Makashi? THAT is truely ridiculous. Grievous does not even use the Force; Grievous was trained to use lightsabers by Dooku, and Dooku could still outdo him.
Yoda is definitely better than Dooku, though; if the fight on Geonosis between the two had continued further, Yoda would have been victorious.
Dooku got owned, thats it. there was nothing to indicate he lost on purpose. he just simply got OWNED by anakin who was much better the he was. (also forms do not exist in the movies)
as for palps being an idiot? WTF?? are you stoned? Anakin would have been by far the most powerful person ever, twice as strong as Sids was, had he not gotten chopped up by Obi.
palps picked the best of the best, even if he knew it would take a few years for him to get to that level. (although he was better then most everyone already anyways)
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also forms do not exist in the movies
I wont get into that.
Alot of people who watched the movie noticed that when Dooku walked up the stairs and looked at Palpatine, his fighting with Anakin became alot worse. Anyone who has EYES can see this.
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I'm going to agree and disagree with a whole bunch of EU lovers and ((The_Anomaly)) on certain points.
My theory: Palps knew that if Anakin got trained up, he'd be more powerful than Dooku and therefor be more useful to him. The only problem was: Anakin wasn't all darkside yet, even though he had already started down the dark path. Years of training to defend others with Obi-wan and the love a good woman was keeping him from Palpatine's full grasp.
Therefore:
1. Palps needed to keep feeding Ani's arrogance, force him to comit another act of vengence with hatred without actually telling him he was doing so. So, (this is where I agree with EU people) I believe he really did tell Dooku to loose. I don't think Dooku would have agreed if he thought he was going to die, hence his look of pure shock in the aftermath.
He also needed to make Anakin trust and protect him even after the young Jedi knew Palpatine was a Sith, but that would be off subject and I don't feel like going into that right now.
2. This, though Dooku didn't know it, would also solve an other problem for Sidious. With Dooku dead, it would make the Clone Wars easier to close, thus ensuring that the Republic would understand that Sidious was the right and powerful leader for it and making those would thought him untrustworthy powerless.
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3. Chosen One Issue: I'm not sure if Sidious really thought of Anakin as the Chosen One as the Council did. After all, the prophecy did say that the child would bring about a new Jedi Order (which he did initially, though through his son instead of him).
In fact, I think Palpatine thought that Plageous (sp?) was the one who actually created Anakin. That scene in the Opera House where Sidious shows how manipulative he can be with others hopes, dreams and ngihtmares just makes my skin crawl and pops up these very odd questiones in my head about Sidious' past and Anakin himslef. Palpatine did know that Anakin was then and after going to be VERY VERY powerful though, "the best of the best," as ((The_Anomaly)) said. It only makes sense that Sidious wanted this man as his apprentice.
4. As a response to the initial question on this thread: No, I don't believe Sidious was an idiot when he chose Anakin over Dooku. For all Dooku's skill with a saber and power with the Force, there is no way he would have been able to do what Anakin did to the code and heart of the Jedi Order.
Anyways, that was long and possibly boring to everyone esle.
But, Oh well....
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sidious only chose the secound most michordian ( SP) person. I mean yoda beat doku ( when he was using his form 2) doku had reached his full protantial (SP) and wasn't powerful enough to kill jedi like yoda. anackin was clearly stated by sidious that he will be more powerful then both himself and yoda. i think the only idiot hear is the person that started this thread jk. i luv you
This chosen one shit is truly starting to piss me off. The chosen one does not even have to be that powerful.
And dooku was told what to do, if you read ROTS by matheew stover you would know.
Improved by a hair or two. Meaning he was not an idiot like in AOTC, but dooku waS still far ahead in skill.
And he dident wimp out, the point was to let anakin live so that sidious could use him for further use. Dooku dident know he would be the next apprentice. And in the book he was told to eliminate obi wan first, which he did gracefully.
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ROTS was by Stover then. . . shame. It sucked. It made Dooku look like he was being overwhelmed. Kit Fisto's head got chopped off. Cin was cut down by a strike from Anakin as he fended of Troopers. Anakin and Obi-Wan deflected blaster bolts at eachother in their fight. And Obi-Wan fought Grievous calmly and easily. Not to mention he was, according to Mace, the only one who could defeat Grievous.
The only reason why Obi-Wan defeated Grevious is because Mace Windu damaged Grevious badly. If Obi-Wan Kenobi encountered Grevious in Clone Wars(B4 Mace damaged Grevious), Obi-Wan would die easily.
I did. In ROTS Grevious was a total wuss why? In Clone Wars, he wasn't afraid to take on 7 Jedi's at a time! He took on Master Shaak Ti and the that bearded guy(Forgotten name) and won. But why not fight Kenobi instead of running? Because he freakin weak because Windu damaged Grevious by crushing Grevious's chest. He was weakend by Windu and finished off by Kenobi. If Windu DIDN'T damaged Grevious, Grevious wouldn't be a total wuss and fight Kenobi without fear.
man you and me dont agree alot but im soo happy you said that......its in the damn book.....read it you dumb ****s we wuldnt say this shit. if there wasnt proof behind it. GOD........................
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