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Originally posted by bigbran
no hes not, he could be skyfather level and maybe a notch above.
disagree, of course, but one person said it and now your going to beleive it? he only said it because he left marvel.


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no hes not, he could be skyfather level and maybe a notch above.


Apparently you know absolutely NOTHING about Pre-Crisis Darkseid. erm


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No heat was intended in my language. Thats what the j/p was for. Just playing.


Ya but the words were there right. Even if there's no aggression intended in the swear words ur typin, the words r still there right? That's why u gotta put the * mark or switch things around a bit like instead of shit u type sh!t.
What do u think will happen if a parent sees all those swear words in the article their kid is accessing? If its in the kid's room, its okay, but some pple have their comps in a place like the hall or something(mayb).


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Apparently you know absolutely NOTHING about Pre-Crisis Darkseid. erm
ok, what level is highfather?


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Apparently you know absolutely NOTHING about Pre-Crisis Darkseid. erm



Uhh is it Pre-c DS we're talkin bout or post-c?


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yeah excactly, nobody said anything about what darkseid.


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ok, what level is highfather?


Pre-Crisis Darkseid is above skyfather level. erm


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Pre-Crisis Darkseid is above skyfather level. erm
stop dancing around the question. what level is highfather.


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PC Darkseid was skyfather level. Top end skyfather, but still on that level.
As was the original Galactus.
Thats why Kirby had them as equals.
But Galactus has gone up, by many leagues, while Darkseid has stagnated.
The only time PC Darky was truely above skyfather level, was the GDS, when he absorbed the power of many other powerful beings.
And that wasn't the norm for the guy.
Theres a reason why many comic stores used to put the IG Saga right next to the GDS Saga.

And Darkseid and Highfather are pretty much two different sides of the same coin. They were equals during the PC era.
So that means that you feel Highfather is around 50% of Galactus??
Not gonna say thats wrong, but i will say i don't agree.

And why would Onslaught lose to Darkseid 10/10?? Curious is all.


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PC Darkseid was skyfather level. Top end skyfather, but still on that level.
As was the original Galactus.
Thats why Kirby had them as equals.
But Galactus has gone up, by many leagues, while Darkseid has stagnated.
The only time PC Darky was truely above skyfather level, was the GDS, when he absorbed the power of many other powerful beings.
And that wasn't the norm for the guy.
Theres a reason why many comic stores used to put the IG Saga right next to the GDS Saga.

And Darkseid and Highfather are pretty much two different sides of the same coin. They were equals during the PC era.
So that means that you feel Highfather is around 50% of Galactus??
Not gonna say thats wrong, but i will say i don't agree.

And why would Onslaught lose to Darkseid 10/10?? Curious is all.
thanx!!


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I think I have too bring up scans.

Darkseid peirces Highfather's cloaking defenses, and so Izaya takes a leave to make sure DS wouldn't find Takion, as if he did, 'Seid would "surely destroy" him:

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?...on1210xr7nt.jpg

Darkseid easily defeats The Infinity Man, banishing him to another realm, with a barrier preventing his return:

http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?...7jpgorig8za.jpg
http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?...8jpgorig8db.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?...ple011080nw.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?...ple011091wb.jpg
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Can somebody please tell me if this is a fight or are we going according to feats or skyfather/highfather levels?


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Can somebody please tell me if this is a fight or are we going according to feats or skyfather/highfather levels?

You said Onslaught threw Juggs across America, DS banished people through out time.


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I say it could go EITHER WAY

You guys are forgetting many things:

Pro-Darksied

1) Darksied possesses the Omega Effect which I beleive may very well nullify Onslaught if it came into contact.

2) Darksied is a little above Thanos in terms of sheer physical might, and Thanos is on par with Hulk and Drax the Destroyer. Angry Hulk ripped away at Onslaught's armor. Does that mean Hulk can beat Onslaught? No...but he definately took away a layer of his defenses.

I am pretty confident that PIS ASIDE, Darksied can do the same thing.




Pro-Onslaught


1) Onslaught can mindwipe Darksied. Instant K.O.

2) If the Omega Effect is used, and Onslaught sees it coming he can easily freeze it in time/space, or possibly nullify/backfire the omega effect itself (if he had Franklyn Richard's powers)

3) Onslaught had unlimitted psychic ability....he was a God in the Astral Place...the fact that Hulk beat him down is TOTAL PIS..and a desperate way to end the Onslaught Saga, because REALISTICALLY Onslaught was wayyyyy above Hulk's level.

So if you are going to ignore Darksied's PIS, then you ALSO have to ignore Onslaught's PIS.




Both of these contendors have enough ability to defeat the other....I don't beleive this is a matter of who is stronger, smarter, more evil, or more versatile.

I think this is all a matter of HOW the story would be WRITTEN if the fight WERE to ever occur.


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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I say it could go EITHER WAY

You guys are forgetting many things:

Pro-Darksied

1) Darksied possesses the Omega Effect which I beleive may very well nullify Onslaught if it came into contact.

2) Darksied is a little above Thanos in terms of sheer physical might, and Thanos is on par with Hulk and Drax the Destroyer. Angry Hulk ripped away at Onslaught's armor. Does that mean Hulk can beat Onslaught? No...but he definately took away a layer of his defenses.

I am pretty confident that PIS ASIDE, Darksied can do the same thing.




Pro-Onslaught


1) Onslaught can mindwipe Darksied. Instany K.O.

2) If the Omega Effect is used, and Onslaught sees it coming he can easily freeze it in time/space, or possibly nullify/backfire the omega effect itself (if he had Franklyn Richard's powers)

3) Onslaught had unlimitted psychic ability....he was a God in the Astral Place...the fact that Hulk beat him down is TOTAL PIS..and a desperate way to end the Onslaught Saga, because REALISTICALLY Onslaught was wayyyyy above Hulk's level.

So if you are going to ignore Darksied's PIS, then you ALSO have to ignore Onslaught's PIS.

Dude the OE moves at warp speed he will never see it coming.


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Sorry, no. no PIS aside, Darkseid is on normal powered Galactus level.


jack Kirby said that, but that aside, i havent seen any version of darkseid that has feats that can match up to what Galactus does.

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I say it could go EITHER WAY

You guys are forgetting many things:

Pro-Darksied

1) Darksied possesses the Omega Effect which I beleive may very well nullify Onslaught if it came into contact.

2) Darksied is a little above Thanos in terms of sheer physical might, and Thanos is on par with Hulk and Drax the Destroyer. Angry Hulk ripped away at Onslaught's armor. Does that mean Hulk can beat Onslaught? No...but he definately took away a layer of his defenses.

I am pretty confident that PIS ASIDE, Darksied can do the same thing.




Pro-Onslaught


1) Onslaught can mindwipe Darksied. Instant K.O.

2) If the Omega Effect is used, and Onslaught sees it coming he can easily freeze it in time/space, or possibly nullify/backfire the omega effect itself (if he had Franklyn Richard's powers)

3) Onslaught had unlimitted psychic ability....he was a God in the Astral Place...the fact that Hulk beat him down is TOTAL PIS..and a desperate way to end the Onslaught Saga, because REALISTICALLY Onslaught was wayyyyy above Hulk's level.

So if you are going to ignore Darksied's PIS, then you ALSO have to ignore Onslaught's PIS.




Both of these contendors have enough ability to defeat the other....I don't beleive this is a matter of who is stronger, smarter, more evil, or more versatile.

I think this is all a matter of HOW the story would be WRITTEN if the fight WERE to ever occur.


ill have to agree with u but with one thing...sorry..i feel thanos deffinalty got the sheer mite thing over Darkseid..Thanos fought thor hulk, the thing at the same time, and held his own, accually he did beat the crap out of all of them in my opinion..another thing is Thanos did exchange blows with Warrior maddness Thor (10x stonger than a normal thor, also thor had the power gem) and held his own..
thanos > darkseid

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Originally posted by Takion
You said Onslaught threw Juggs across America, DS banished people through out time.




He didn throw him, he punched him thru america. He evn ripped the gem out of juggy's body.


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ill have to agree with u but with one thing...sorry..i feel thanos deffinalty got the sheer mite thing over Darkseid..Thanos fought thor hulk, the thing at the same time, and held his own, accually he did beat the crap out of all of them in my opinion..another thing is Thanos did exchange blows with Warrior maddness Thor (10x stonger than a normal thor, also thor had the power gem) and held his own..
thanos > darkseid


So what.

After Mantis has absorbed the full power of Hal Jordan's GL ring, he unloads it on DS. Check what happens:

http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?...004121rd8mw.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?...004174cl2df.jpg

Darkseid takes a blast from a Master Blaster, which Mr. Miracle states can destroy any life form, to no effect. Then he banishes Scott:

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?...darkseid0nq.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?...arkseid17ib.jpg


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