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Well, thats because you're a quitter and we all know quitters....quit.


No, I'm done because it's a fact, and you aren't understanding it. So I figure, what the hell's the point?


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No, I'm done because it's a fact, and you aren't understanding it. So I figure, what the hell's the point?

Translation: I'm a quitter.


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Translation: I'm a quitter.


I've explained my point. It's over now Val. Let it go.


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I've explained my point. It's over now Val. Let it go.

Quitter


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Whedon has admitted that Wolverine's SOLE purpose in that comic is for comic relief. He's sucked out the entire integrity of Wolverine's character in that comic. Seriously, I'm done discussing this topic. It's a fact. The guy admitted to it.


He may have admitted it, but Wolverine is far from a joke in the series. He's just not his normal "uber g0d fanby's wet dr3am" form.

I suppose that upsets you.

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I read it, its great.

The best X book out right now till this tuesday.


The best X men book since Morisson's New X-men. Its a pity G.S. had to ruin it for everyone. smile


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The best X men book since Morisson's New X-men. Its a pity G.S. had to ruin it for everyone. smile

laughing out loud

The Morrison run was probably my favorite era of X-Men outside of Chris Claremont's heyday (which is long past).


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laughing out loud

The Morrison run was probably my favorite era of X-Men outside of Chris Claremont's heyday (which is long past).


IMO Chris Claremont's heyday has had a dual role, on X-men comics. Its allowed X-men to be associated with some of the greatest stories ever illustrated, and is responsible for the utter crap that has been published since the late 80's.

Claremonts a legend, but he's really out stayed his welcome.


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He may have admitted it, but Wolverine is far from a joke in the series. He's just not his normal "uber g0d fanby's wet dr3am" form.

I suppose that upsets you.


No, I'm not a Wolverine fanboy. The integrity of Wolverine's character is shot to hell in that series. Whedon did to Wolverine what Adam West did to Batman. erm


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A lot of people read this... and from the "calibre" of some of the threads and posts in the X-Men forum I can see why you'd rather discuss it here. shifty


hey i started of in the x-men forum, there is nowt wrong with it.

and astonishing x-men is really cool, features 4 of my favourite x-men, plus Ord is a cool villian.


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No, I'm not a Wolverine fanboy. The integrity of Wolverine's character is shot to hell in that series. Whedon did to Wolverine what Adam West did to Batman. erm


I couldnt agree more. While I really like the series he did make Wolverine a joke. CAse in point the latest issues in which as a result of Cassandra Nova he acts like a scared puppy. No respect for the character but I like what he is doing with Emma Frost and the new Hellfire club. Very entertaining series.


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Because Wolverine really has no place there. Everyone else has been relatively integral to the plot. He's only there because he has to be everywhere. There's no need for Whedon to devote a ton of time into giving dialogue to or developing Wolverine, when he's already in his own solo series, the other X-titles, and New Avengers.

Besides that's totally in character for Cassandra Nova.
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No, I'm not a Wolverine fanboy. The integrity of Wolverine's character is shot to hell in that series. Whedon did to Wolverine what Adam West did to Batman. erm


I'm not saying you're a fanboy (I know you aren't), just that because Wolverine is back to his slightly-above street leveller status, you're a wee bit sad. stick out tongue


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I'm not saying you're a fanboy (I know you aren't), just that because Wolverine is back to his slightly-above street leveller status, you're a wee bit sad. stick out tongue


Just the overall integrity of his CHARACTER that was established many years ago is gone. erm I would actually prefer Wolverine to stay out of the Astonishing books all together, then for him to get written this way. wink


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Because Wolverine really has no place there. Everyone else has been relatively integral to the plot. He's only there because he has to be everywhere. There's no need for Whedon to devote a ton of time into giving dialogue to or developing Wolverine, when he's already in his own solo series, the other X-titles, and New Avengers.

Besides that's totally in character for Cassandra Nova.
laughing out loud


Whedon made reference to the fact that he would enjoy creating an X book without Wolverine, and that it frustrates him that the characters seems to be in virtually very marvel mainstream comic. To be fare, i reckon the Morison esque role he has at the moment is perfect for him. I haven't read the most recent issue, but the feat should be attributed to Cassandra Nova's power (IMO the Onslaught Saga would have been a lot better, if she had been the nemesis, instead of Onslaught) rather a 'diss' at wolverine. We know he's going to save the day in the end, anyway. smile I just hope Emma is kept as a good guy at the end of the series. She been one of the best female characters to come out of marvel since the 20th century. She's like a female version of Elijah Snow, from Planetary.


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No, I'm not a Wolverine fanboy. The integrity of Wolverine's character is shot to hell in that series. Whedon did to Wolverine what Adam West did to Batman. erm
Wolverine has some really badass things in that series too...


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Just the overall integrity of his CHARACTER that was established many years ago is gone. erm I would actually prefer Wolverine to stay out of the Astonishing books all together, then for him to get written this way. wink


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree, then. I think the Wolverine character in this is one of the best he has in comics out now. wink


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Whedon has admitted that Wolverine's SOLE purpose in that comic is for comic relief. He's sucked out the entire integrity of Wolverine's character in that comic. Seriously, I'm done discussing this topic. It's a fact. The guy admitted to it.

agreed. He writes wolverine like an idiot

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