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Well technically the kid who controls the dinosaur is now Chase. He also controls the ship they travel in and seems to have some innate mechanical engineering skills, so I dunno whether I'd put him as the most useless; although it's probably either him or Molly.


Molly is possibly one of the strongest beings on the planet (if what Cloak says is true)

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The Authority - Don't know much about them. But that girl with the wings seems pretty damn useless....


They get away with it by having Swift fly the Carrier (Angie helps too). She's also an (admittedly struggling) Buddhist, so she's much more pacifist than anyone on the team (except maybe The Doctor) to provide a moral contrast. But yeah, otherwise she's rather pointless.

But she only came on because she's ex-Stormwatch with Jenny and Jack, back before everyone on the team was insanely powerful.


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Molly is possibly one of the strongest beings on the planet (if what Cloak says is true)

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I'd like her to be, (because it would be incredibly and amusingly ironic). But she's listed as a 3 tonner. Her powers are psi-based though, so it may have affected Cloak's cloak in some unknown manner.

She's just a kid though so her powers will likely grow with time.

Completely irrelevant, but I just read Runaways #19, Nico did the dirty with Victor... I guess he's an anatomically correct android in every way...


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She's performed greater than 3 ton feats.... I'm reasonably sure (though I haven't double checked that fact)

But if she is psi based she may end up with Superboy style tactile telekinesis


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Well I'm assuming she's psi-based. I don't think it's been stated. But her parents were both telepaths, and her eyes glow in the same way suggesting a nonphysical basis for her superstrength.

She probably has performed >3 ton feats, but iirc the stated 3 ton thing is from Brian K Vaughn himself.

On topic, it's probably more useful to have a brawler than a dinosaur controller on the team.


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I'm surprised no one has retaliated at my statement of "Captain America is the most useless Avenger" .... where the hell is King Kam?


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Most of the NA team is relatively useless though when you've got "throw him in the sun", "power of million suns" Sentry on the team and Iron Man.


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Most of the NA team is relatively useless though when you've got "throw him in the sun", "power of million suns" Sentry on the team and Iron Man.


Yeah... but when he's tied up fighting The Collective or Genis or Zemo or Thor ... or whoever... the rest of the team will have to fend for themselves


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Well discounting that they're all relatively useless compared to Sentry and Iron Man, and if one doesn't include Ronin as part of the team then yeah objectively Captain America would probably be next voted off the island.


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Astonishing X-Men - Wolverine Beast is 50% of what he is in feral form and more important while he is smart.
Fantastic Four - Err...have to say Johnny. This is the hardest decision, though.
The original JLA - Batman.
The Authority - Swift by far.
New Avengers - Cage
Teen Titans (before Infinite Crisis) - Wonder Girl
The Inhumans (not really a team per se but meh) - Triton
Runaways - Currently? Chase, I guess.
Young Avengers - The stupid arrow girl.
Alpha Flight - Hmm...Puck.
The Outsiders - Thunder
Excalibur - Nocturne?
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Young Avengers - The stupid arrow girl.
laughing out loud That should be her codename.


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Fantastic Four: I'd have to say Ben is the least useful, Sue can hit as hard as him, Reed can bulk up to near his mass, Sue's forcefields have better durability than him .... and so does Reed

No-one on the team can duplicate/mimic Torch's energy powers, his speed or his agility in the air


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JLA - Batman.


I agree that Superman has Batman beat in some categories of smarts. However, it's pretty clear that strategy, deductive reasoning, detective skills, coming up with plans for everybody, and understanding criminal minds for the JLA to cope with the threat is Batman's specialty. The JLA have expressed their dependence on Batman before. I'm sure you've read "JLA: Divided We Fall." wink

With that said, I'd say Aquaman.


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Okay, clearly you've never read Runaways or Young Avengers, the quality of which both art and writing surpasses several of the more mainstream titles often.
Ditto on Runaways and YA. Alpha Flight have never interested me much, but they definitely serve a niche.


Au contraire my friend. I have every issue of Young Avengers, complete first volume and evry issue of the 2nd volume so far of Runaways and i have read a lot of Alpha Flight. That beng said, I liked Runaways when it first came out because it was an interesting concept like the Thunderboltes when they first came out but as I read Runaways I always thought "How long can they stretch this storyline, it would have to end sooner or later" but it was good because it was enterntaining, then it finished and I was ok with it because it had a good story with a decisive ending but then they made volume 2 i guess just to milk the success of the first one but I really dont think it will last. Mollys feat of pulling Cloaks cloak it was a way for the writer to make her powerful even if he had a stablished hero like Cloak to do it. I like reading Runaways, I think Victor and Karolina are the koolest characters but if it is cancelled tomorrow, no biggie. Young Avengers i like, it was created to feel the void when the Avengers disassembled and it has potential to be something like Teen Titans but i dont like the gay characters, I feel they were just created just for the "controversial" factor and maybe to bring readers in. Its been good but not great and again if it was cancelled tomorrow, no biggie. Alpha Flight has never ammounted to anything. It has had like 4 or 5 runs and they all get cancelled, why? because they sucked. I think the best thing they have done was die in New Avengers and when they make a new AF series it will get cancelled too. IMO.


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I agree that Superman has Batman beat in some categories of smarts. However, it's pretty clear that strategy, deductive reasoning, detective skills, coming up with plans for everybody, and understanding criminal minds for the JLA to cope with the threat is Batman's specialty. The JLA have expressed their dependence on Batman before. I'm sure you've read "JLA: Divided We Fall." wink

Yeah but that's still moronic considering Manhunter could easily handle that stuff. J'onn is definitely the superior strategist as per Bruce's own words. Then again, Batman and JLA Batman aren't the same character at all. JLA Batman comes up with solutions to everything on the fly as if he has Cosmic Awareness. Batman takes 8 issues just to solve a crime based on Two Face. I don't really see how anyone can enjoy JLA Batman.


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Yeah but that's still moronic considering Manhunter could easily handle that stuff. J'onn is definitely the superior strategist as per Bruce's own words. Then again, Batman and JLA Batman aren't the same character at all. JLA Batman comes up with solutions to everything on the fly as if he has Cosmic Awareness. Batman takes 8 issues just to solve a crime based on Two Face. I don't really see how anyone can enjoy JLA Batman.


J'onn has also been shown saying he isn't even close to being the strategist or the detective that Batman is. JLA Batman's sole purpose is to be the genius and to be the strategist. His ability to compete with beings such as White Martians in JLA comics gets a little rediculous actually, so you're right about that. erm


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J'onn has also been shown saying he isn't even close to being the strategist or the detective that Batman is. JLA Batman's sole purpose is to be the genius and to be the strategist.

That's what I mean though. Superman and J'onn are dumbed down in order for Batman to do something meaningful. No other character on the League has such a clear distinction between their JLA versions and solo series versions unless it's something negative like GL not being as effective as he should be. If JLA Bruce had a conversation with solo Bruce, he'd probably call him retarded.

Let's not even get into Superman/Batman Bruce. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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That's what I mean though. Superman and J'onn are dumbed down in order for Batman to do something meaningful. No other character on the League has such a clear distinction between their JLA versions and solo series versions unless it's something negative like GL not being as effective as he should be. If JLA Bruce had a conversation with solo Bruce, he'd probably call him retarded.


He still has his uses to the League. Moreso than Aquaman. There are just some parts of intellect that the other leaguers don't have as well tuned as he does. That's why they depend on him for stuff. He's the strategist and detective. Even in his own series, Batman does stuff like that as well.


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He still has his uses to the League. Moreso than Aquaman. There are just some parts of intellect that the other leaguers don't have as well tuned as he does. That's why they depend on him for stuff. He's the strategist and detective. Even in his own series, Batman does stuff like that as well.

Of course he does that stuff in his own series. Just not nearly as well. If he did Gotham would be a utopia. Come on, he can stop herald level guys in a few panels over in JLA but "Hush" is a 12 issue arc of Batman?


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