According to you. But God is the justification for all things and therefore, whatever he does is justified. Omnipotent as in he knows all possible outcomes without infringing upon free will. I tend to believe that he chose the one that ended up being best.
Well, as you saw he claimed that we were lucky if we showed compassion. Kind of hard to being living by the Spirit when you say things like that. Maybe he's still learning, but perhaps he never will. Regardless, we are definitely not on the same page.
Irrational and circular reasoning. "God is justified, just because." Nevertheless if one can use this to justify god performing what would be legally termed a hate crime; why is the same god restricted by free will of his or her creations?^ What you describe here is a limited precognitive omniscence not really an omnipotence. Which you then contradict by implying an omnipotence to dictate the outcome of events:Any preordained future cannot logically coincide with an omnipotent precognitive infallible god.
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Cause that is an idiotic point? I have better reasons for not believing that a God exists than that.
It could just be a God that wants us to have free will.
Or a God that doesn't care.
Or even an evil God that likes to screw with our minds.
The God Christians worship is actually the devil.
All those are possibilities that would explain it, reasonable ones. It's just not a strong argument for doubting God.
God does not torture. Murder is quite different than the justice of God. Only God knows when sin is truly warranting death and what justice is deserving because only he can truly see the heart.
I already told you my view on hell. You even admitted that it was interesting and quite different than what you thought. It does not involve torture.
Sodom and Gomorrha - deserved (good people were spared)
Flood - deserved (good people were spared)
I sometimes struggle with the children of Egypt. I really don't have a good explanation for it. Sometimes I wonder though because I believe that all children go to heaven and that maybe it wasn't that bad if they were just called to paradise... I really don't know.
1) Your view on Hell is not the same as the literal passages the Bible describes. The Bible clearly states it is a place of eternal and unbearable suffering...
When i judge or critisize the concept of Biblical God, i do it based on the Bible's writings, not on your personal intepretation.
2) Sodom and Gomorrha....NO ONE deserves ahnialation. How do you KNOW good people were spared?
3) Flood...so EVERYONE except Noah and his family deserved to be drowned, including animals ? All the men, women, AND CHILDREN deserved to be executed ? Nice try, that's a crock of shit...
4) Sons of Egypt got you stumped ? God killed them....no justification for it. God is a hypocrit, because he broke his OWN commandment, and did it with SUCH STYLE......
5) You don't know, because there's NOTHING to know...it's all myth. After 18 years of being a studeous Christian, I can pretty much say that with confidense.
1) I used literal Biblical interpretations. Read it again please and you might see that.
2) I know that because the Lord said he would not destroy Sodom and Gomorrha for the sake of ten righteous men. Lot was the only righteous person found within the city so he was spared. The people in the city deserved annihilation because of their evil deeds.
3) Yes, everyone. The more I think about it, the more I think that children being killed only results in paradise for them.
4) Actually, not stumped. There was justification, to seperate the righteous from the non-believers for all to see. The commandents were not made so he didn't break anything.
5) But you can't say confidence... hehe I'm a grammar Nazi.
The children go to paradise? Sorry but I call bullshit. The children's corpses should get washed away like all the other crap that wouldn't fit on the ark and then their "souls" ought go to hell for not believing in Jesus.
I don't recommend it, only God can determine it as the best possible solution. Also, the pain caused is not justified by us. Only God knows when the result is worth the pain.
In the context of this matter abortion would be wrong because of one of the three things left to use: faith, hope, and love.
I am talking about hope. Hope is a very inclusive word and includes hope for heaven and also for future generations.
Again, you're kidding, right? Lets just concentrate on the flood.
You're telling me that EVERY animal except for two on the planet deserved to drown?
You're telling me that EVERY human except for Noah's family on the planet deserved to drown?
And then you "stuggle" with children? That was a poor rationalization. If murder was a free ticket to heaven, why doesn't God just murder everyone now and be done with it?
Maybe you could just accept the reliable explination that the bible is fictional and that it was written by people trying to create theocracy.
Animals don't have souls so its not really a problem.
Yes. That is why only Noah's was saved. I thought that was pretty obvious.
Read what I said. Children that die go to heaven. However, God gives us as much choice as possible so murdering everyone wouldn't really do much for him.
An entire planet and only one family was "good"? Forgive me if I scoff.
All children that die go to heaven? Even children that don't believe in god and Jesus? Buddhist children go to Christian heaven? The Prussian Blue twins are going to Christian heaven?
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