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Nihilist
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why does every body hate apoc so much.

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We don't

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Originally posted by Galan007
Yep, that's why I said "a non-jobbing Apoc. might get a few wins."

I'm with trickster. (Classic) Apocalypse at his most powerful was a true team wrecker. I have the Xfactor Issue where he "dies" on the moon. Apocalypse was taking point blank shots from Black Bolt + Xfactor + the rest of the inhumans combined with zero apparent damage.

He was also several stories tall at this point.

Apoc also has good showings vs. Ikaris and the High Evolutionary, and successfully put an angry hulk in a chokehold. The man's strength is no joke.

Speaking of which, don't forget Apocalypse has SCADS of Celestial tech just laying around to be used if need be. I'd also be willing to wager he's a good bit smarter than standard Thor.

I'd give classic apoc 6 or 7 out of ten vs. Thor, current one dies horribly though.

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Thor wins, he's a god.
Apoc is just a self-proclaimed god.

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what issue of x-factor is it

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Originally posted by Space M ummy
I'm with trickster. (Classic) Apocalypse at his most powerful was a true team wrecker. I have the Xfactor Issue where he "dies" on the moon. Apocalypse was taking point blank shots from Black Bolt + Xfactor + the rest of the inhumans combined with zero apparent damage.

He was also several stories tall at this point.

Apoc also has good showings vs. Ikaris and the High Evolutionary, and successfully put an angry hulk in a chokehold. The man's strength is no joke.

Speaking of which, don't forget Apocalypse has SCADS of Celestial tech just laying around to be used if need be. I'd also be willing to wager he's a good bit smarter than standard Thor.

I'd give classic apoc 6 or 7 out of ten vs. Thor, current one dies horribly though.

Can I ask you a favor? Can you direct me to a site that has that issue? Or can you scan that issue into the Apoc respect thread?

The only reason I haven't given Apoc 6-7 wins over Thor is ENTIRELY due to the deus ex machina nature of THAT GOD DAMN HAMMER. Mjolnir is a plot device and a super deus ex machina. That, and I don't know how celestial tech or Apoc himself stand up to magic.

Thanks for the props dude. thumb up

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Fair enough. Speaking of Thor, is Clor basically the new Thor, or is the real Maccoy coming back? If not, we might have start putting Thor in the same pile as current Apoc.

If Clor is the new Thor then I can finally say...Hercules>>>Thor! Happy Dance

Back to the issue at hand, Classic Apoc vs Thor would be an amazing battle, which I would say Thor just edged 6/10.

Current Apoc, isn't fairing so well though...

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Current Apoc has been turned into the ***** for whoever the marvel staff want to wank. sad

And yes, you can say Herc>Thor. smile

at least until the real Thor shows up and shoves Mjolnir up Clor's ass. big grin

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Current Apoc has been turned into the ***** for whoever the marvel staff want to wank.

unfortunatley.

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And yes, you can say Herc>Thor. at least until the real Thor shows up and shoves Mjolnir up Clor's ass.

Well he would have to aim for his ass because he now has no head! big grin

always liked the Thor and Herc dynamic though, Thor is the sensible one in that relationship, where as Herc just wants to drink and punch people.

I'm actually looking forward to Thor coming back.

Feb 21st, 2007 11:30 PM

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Current Apoc has been turned into the ***** for whoever the marvel staff want to wank.

Don't worry eventually he'll suck so much that it won't be possible to use him to wank characters . . . big grin

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Another misspelled Apoc thread mad

Well, it's nice to see an Apoc discussion that isn't going down with a table. laughing

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Can I ask you a favor? Can you direct me to a site that has that issue? Or can you scan that issue into the Apoc respect thread?

That, and I don't know how celestial tech or Apoc himself stand up to magic.

Well, the Celestial tech Apoc used against Loki were able to hold, in fact, drain Loki of his powers. Although, he did successfully free himself.

Could Thor break free from the Celestial machines?

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Don't worry eventually he'll suck so much that it won't be possible to use him to wank characters . . .

Apoc is more usless than a table.
I wouldent want to use Apocalypse to eat on. big grin

Feb 21st, 2007 11:35 PM

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Another misspelled Apoc thread

Well, it's nice to see an Apoc discussion that isn't going down with a table.

Well, the Celestial tech Apoc used against Loki were able to hold, in fact, drain Loki of his powers. Although, he did successfully free himself.

Could Thor break free from the Celestial machines?

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So Celestial tech>Asgardian magic? interesting. In that case, definitely favor Apoc in this match. I was wondering when you'd show up. big grin

You wouldn't happen to have the issue in question, would you?

Priest: Screw you. stick out tongue

Sym: DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! big grin

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Can I ask you a favor? Can you direct me to a site that has that issue? Or can you scan that issue into the Apoc respect thread?

The only reason I haven't given Apoc 6-7 wins over Thor is ENTIRELY due to the deus ex machina nature of THAT GOD DAMN HAMMER. Mjolnir is a plot device and a super deus ex machina. That, and I don't know how celestial tech or Apoc himself stand up to magic.

Thanks for the props dude.

sorry, I had to actually go looking for the issue- took a while because it's pretty well worn and the cover's no longer on it.

I don't have a scanner but it's X-factor #68, 1991. looking through it again it seems like Scott is using his power + jean's + nathan's to take apocalypse out...so the loss might not be as bad I as remembered. Baby nathan was being made out to be stronger than Jean was at that point...

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You wouldn't happen to have the issue in question, would you?

Oh, which issue?

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Apocalypse would likely win 6/10.

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Oh, which issue?

I assume he means the issue where celestial tech was used to trap/drain Loki.

If that's true, apocalypse definitely has a decisive win here.

Feb 22nd, 2007 12:11 AM

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That issue, and the moon battle one with Inhumans, X-Factor, etc.

Baby Nathan was stronger than Jean? blink

I still don't see Jean, Cyke and Nathan as being stronger than Apoc.

Edit: Found some scans of Apoc punking Loki in the respect thread. Props to Evil_Ash.

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