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carver9
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Current Thanos solos. None of the others are on Darkseid's level in his true form.

This isnt true form Darkseid. I said this is the Darkseid Superman and Orion fought. When did they fight true form?

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Does Carver not know about Darkseid's avatars?

Sigh, when did Supes and Orion fight true form Darkseid?

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like who?

Tony, Thor Cap, Hulk, etc...you know the Avengers

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True Form Darkseid and Avatars are notions tossed out by a couple of writers in the past that aren't even considered by most other writers, especially today.

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True new gods were shown in Multiversity.

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True new gods were shown in Multiversity.

And Morrison is one said writers.

Jan 20th, 2020 06:54 PM

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This isnt true form Darkseid. I said this is the Darkseid Superman and Orion fought. When did they fight true form?

Which one then? Be more specific. Superman and Orion also battled Soul Fire Darkseid. Is that the one you�re using?

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Carver did specify which Darkseid is being used here. It's Justice League level Darkseid and not the one that can challenge the Infinity Gauntlet.

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Tony, Thor Cap, Hulk, etc...you know the Avengers

so you have no actual examples and are acting like you know

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True Form Darkseid and Avatars are notions tossed out by a couple of writers in the past that aren't even considered by most other writers, especially today.

And Odin being this galaxy buster isn't even considered, especially today.

Its just funny how Carv wants an Odin who hasn't been seen for like 20 years, but DS has to be kept down for the DC team to have a chance.

Anyway, doesn't DS amp off gods?

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so you have no actual examples and are acting like you know

I mean I could post examples but why? He's a non factor here

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I mean I could post examples but why? He's a non factor here

you can�t give a example unless you ignore context, they�d if you actually know/understand it anyway.

He�d beat Despero. And DS �avatars� are something Thanos can stand up against and compete with.

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you can�t give a example unless you ignore context, they�d if you actually know/understand it anyway.

He�d beat Despero. And DS �avatars� are something Thanos can stand up against and compete with.

Why would I waste time arguing for/against Thanos? He's a non factor. If it's full powered Darkseid, he solos. If it's Avatar Darkseid (watered down JLA version) Odin solos. Thanos and Despero don't really matter. Sure he'd beat Despero but anyone here could. And sure he could stand against an Avy but again anyone could. Not sure what your point is.

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And Odin being this galaxy buster isn't even considered, especially today.

Its just funny how Carv wants an Odin who hasn't been seen for like 20 years, but DS has to be kept down for the DC team to have a chance.

Anyway, doesn't DS amp off gods?

Writers vary in their propensities toward space cheese, but Odin's relative power level is far more consistent than the notion of a mysterious true form Darkseid that is often contradicted.

Aaron brought Odin down in his present state, yet does give galaxy level status to ancient Odin. So it appears that he considers Odin to have weakened.

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Why would I waste time arguing for/against Thanos? He's a non factor. If it's full powered Darkseid, he solos. If it's Avatar Darkseid (watered down JLA version) Odin solos. Thanos and Despero don't really matter. Sure he'd beat Despero but anyone here could. And sure he could stand against an Avy but again anyone could. Not sure what your point is.

How does Old King Thanos rate?

Jan 20th, 2020 10:36 PM

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Sigh, when did Supes and Orion fight true form Darkseid?

I don't know, tbh. But, as DS said:

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And Odin being this galaxy buster isn't even considered, especially today.

Its just funny how Carv wants an Odin who hasn't been seen for like 20 years, but DS has to be kept down for the DC team to have a chance.

Anyway, doesn't DS amp off gods?

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How does Old King Thanos rate?

Trans tier, maybe less. He needed help from Young Thanos to beat Norrin which is insane because mjolnir is not that great a boost.

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Thanos solos.

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And Morrison is one said writers.

It's still established, though. Even Simonson (Orion run) explored a little bit of the avatar concept. Either way, Darkseid is fighting guys like AM, which is way beyond the likes of Thanos.

Jan 20th, 2020 11:13 PM