ok the reason why they shot him 5 times was because the police were using low projectile bullets, which means they are not as strong as normal bullets.
Thats why the Police officer shot him 5 times in the head to make sure he was dead.
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Would you be saying that if he was a suicide bomber. Because obsuley the police were keeping watch over him for some time. Something about his must have aroused there suspicions.
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the problem with computers is that you can never tell if a person is being sarcastic or not.
But i presume you are which is good. Because it does nto matter what nationality you are from its to do with the ideology most suicide bombers have.
I mean this Brazilian could have been an Islamic Fanatic.
Thing is we are not getting all the facts from the police because they have been watching him for some time now
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill
Now THAT is the dumbest thing I have ever heard... go to your friendly urban USA ER any night of the week and see how many folks are killed by ONE .22 to the head....
And I get the rationale as to why they shot & killed this guy, I just dont agree with it
good. when we had the 9/11 incident, i had 3 close friends in New York. i didnt know they were safe until a week later.
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A mistake was made obviously. Tragic, unforntunate - and ultimately the end of a good man's life. It's a darn shame that this incident happenned but I cannot blame the London police for reacting as they did. 5 shots in the head seems overkill to us who are not trained to protect the public from potential terrorists/suicide bombers. The police officers involved have to live with this mistake for the rest of their lives' as will Mr de Menezes family in Brazil. My condolences to his family, and for what it's worth, sorry.
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The man was a Brazilian, he had been living in London for several years and had good comprehension of English. For reasons unknown/unreleased he was under surveillance. Scotland Yard's admission to shooting an "innocent man" suggests that there was no reason for him being under surveillance. Was there a breakdown in intelligence?
There are conflicting reports of whether and when the police declared themselves. Was there some sort of breakdown in communication. These were armed plainclothes officers, if I did not grasp that these people were law enforcement I would have run. Eyewitness reports indicate the man was subdued before he was shot.
Those who make comments like "sickening" should not rush to judgement. Likewise those who argue that no one should question the actions of the police force, a ridiculous notion imo. If the police acted incompetently they should be held to account in accordance with the law and the inquiry will ascertain whether or not they did. Tensions are high and undoubtedly that played a role in this shooting. This was at it's most euphemistic a mistake and the question is was this an avoidable mistake?
The alarming prospect that few have noted is that this shoot-to-kill policy effectively removes the fundamental principle that a person is to be considered innocent until proven guilty. Has that principle become one of the many lost to the "fight against terror"?
P.S. Shooting someone five times in the head at point blank range is excessive in my opinion as someone who has studied neural physiology. If that is police policy it's a rather strange one.
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Sad for you, I was in a similair position on the 7th and near the small explosions myself on Thursday, but I still think its sad an innocent man was killed.
An enquiry will ascertain how competant the actions of the Police were.
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what also seems to have been forgotten in this sad affair is the fact that they followed and shot the man because he had what is commonly refered to as a "bomber jacket" on(allegedly)...kind of ironic really
but what i find weird is that he said he may have had a palestinian style bombers set up...namely hidden under his clothes...this is despite the fact that the previous attacks were all using bombs inside bags and rucksacks...
Just to clear a few things up - reports are that they were watching him because his address was connected with the london bombers. Also i dont know if you guys living in london actually noticed but the last 2 weeks were the hottest this year so people wearing bomber jackets were far and few between. Either way you dont run from police at tube station day after attempted 2nd bombing of the tube in a month. The guy was in the UK for 3 years and spoke fluent english. What happened is sad, but you cant blame the police for the incident. It wasnt like it was just one thing, whats the chance of an innocent man already under surveillance running from armed police?
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