Sometimes characters get more powerful over time. That happens in just about any Japanese shounen (boy's) action anime you care to name. Hell, Thing and Invisible Woman have both become much more powerful since their first appearances. So have Toad, Beast, Emma Frost, Havok, and of course Psylock. All these characters have had enhancements to their abilities. Some were due to secondary mutation, others were due to the characters growing more experienced with their abilities, others are due to their abilities gradually growing stronger.
So why can't Wolverine improve? Just because he couldn't regenerate at this accelerated level before, why shouldn't he be able to now? I'm not saying he should be able to stand at ground zero of a nuke and laugh it off, but when his arm was burned off by Cassandra Nova, that was no great departure from what we'd seen before.
Absolutely untrue. I've been an X-aholic since the tender age of FOUR, and I still have room for Superman and his JLA buddies..... I don't get why it always has to be one camp or the other. It's not like comics are doing such big business right now that you can afford to completely ignore one half of the mainstream market....
We know he is from the comics. Wolverine #25. Havok goes Wolver-hunting in the forest. Wolverine pops out of the bushes at him. Havok (presumably) screams like a preschool girl and freezes up (tragic that comics are a silent medium). Wolverine gives Havok three claws across the chest. Havok's down.
If Havok had kept his cool, he might have been able to blast Wolverine. As it was, his own fear slowed his reaction time. This is not PIS. It was an entirely reasonable scenario, in which Wolverine had surprise and a tactical advantage. I agree that if you just sat Wolverine and Havok down 40 feet in front of each other, Havok could blast Wolverine and that would be the end of it.
I've never seen you back Wolverine ONCE. Not against Spider Man, Captain America, Black Panther..... you even agreed with metalmanx he would lose against 100 Ninjas! What the hell? 100 NINJAS?
Even in this thread you can't bring yourself to give Wolverine your vote .... j/k.... =P
A scenario engineered so Wolverine would win.
A neutral scenario.
I don't think he'd beat Spider-Man, or Black Panther. I recall it was fully armed SHIELD agents, not ninja, all attacking at once, and I recall it was cumulative kill 1 and 2 would come, kill 2 and 3 come so he ended up killing far more than 100. He'd beat Captain America.
Superman is more unreasonably hated than Wolverine on the vs forums.
I read somewhere wolverine can regenerate from a cell... would he not wake up in the morning with a 1000 other wolvies in the same bed... all come from cells he lost in the night...
Yeah, neutral. Neutral the way a British Man with a Lee-Enfield parks himself 200 paces from an African lion and shoots it, then declares "I beat him fair! You all saw!"
There's the Danger Room and then there's the real world. Outside of a featureless arena, in a place where Wolverine's skills could come into play, he would take Havok out.
Well, that was my point, wasn't it? =P
You're mixing two different threads. There was a thread where Wolverine was set against several thousand HYDRA and Hand soldiers in a jungle. The "cumulative," bit was someone else's suggestion, and patently absurd--even if the HYDRA or Hand operatives managed to radio in before they were slaughtered, it would take other squads time to convene in on their position. Wolverine could slip away in that time and pick off the next batch at will.
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Wolverine haters have flamed this thread with there trollin.
I don't hate Wolverine he sometimes wins when he shouldn't thats comics - Heroes are usually the underdogs in power and thats how it should be. Sadly people like Chris Claremont forget this and make there characters "god-like", Wolverine is not, and written well he is a genius character. He really started off the feet of clay modern superhero.
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.... j/k.... =P
