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Still don't believe? Well, it is all documented.


Many things are documented, like evolution, natural selection, errosion, tectonic plate shifting, physics etc., yet some people refuse to believe those things...


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Many things are documented, like evolution, natural selection, physics etc., yet some people refuse to believe those things...


But Don's accident is a documented "fact" unlike evolution.

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But Don's accident is a documented "fact" unlike evolution.


Would it be to much to ask to see the medical and police reports?


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Would it be to much to ask to see the medical and police reports?
If I had them I would overnight a copy to your home.

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If I had them I would overnight a copy to your home.


So Don Piper included them in his book?


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So Don Piper included them in his book?
I do not have Don's book.

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I do not have Don's book.


Yet you are willing to believe it as fact?

I work very close to a Barnes & Noble; after work tomorrow, I'll swing by and look at the books table of contents. I'm willing to bet that the two things that would give some credit to Don's story, the medical and police reports are conveniently omitted from the work.


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I work very close to a Barnes & Noble, after work tomorrow, I'll swing by and look at the books table of contents. I'm willing to bet that the two things that would give some credit to Don's story, the medical and police reports are conveniently omitted from the work.


I am sure that if anyone sincerely desires to know the truth that there is a paper trail that would effortlessly corroborate Don's account. I'm sure there are newspaper clippings, microfiche and all other technology that prove Don's death and subsequent revival. I am sure there are medical practitioners and law enforcement records that easiy sustain Don's true account.

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I am sure that if anyone sincerely desires to know the truth that there is a paper trail that would effortlessly corroborate Don's account. I'm sure there are newspaper clippings, microfiche and all other technology that prove Don's death and subsequent revival. I am sure there are medical practitioners and law enforcement records that easiy sustain Don's true account.


If you are so "sure", then find that trail you old hound dog, corroborate Don's story, post those clippings, post those records. Prove that someone could be dead for 90 minutes and then be revived without severe brain damage. Validate the story.


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If you are so "sure", then find that trail you old hound dog, corroborate Don's story, post those clippings, post those records. Prove that someone could be dead for 90 minutes and then be revived without severe brain damage. Validate the story.


But I am not the one in disbelief. I said previously that if a person sincerely desires to know if Don's account is true that there is sufficient documentation.

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But I am not the one in disbelief. I said previously that if a person sincerely desires to know if Don's account is true that there is sufficient documentation.


Oh ok, have at it, believe what you like, personally though, when I hear a fantasy like story, I demand proof before I believe it. Like Big Foot, I do not believe in Big Foot even though people swear up and down they have seen one. Also, saying "there is sufficient documentation" is being dishonest, since you have not researched the story and just accepted it as fact from face value.


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Oh ok, have at it, believe what you like, personally though, when I hear a fantasy like story, I demand proof before I believe it. Like Big Foot, I do not believe in Big Foot even though people swear up and down they have seen one. Also, saying "there is sufficient documentation" is being dishonest, since you have not researched the story and just accepted it as fact from face value.



http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ Click on this url then click "launch video" to see pictures of Don Piper's demolished car, a picture of the bridge that he traveled on at the time of the accident, and pictures of Emergency Response personnel.

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'90 Minutes in Heaven' sounds like a porno.


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http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ Click on this url then click "launch video" to see pictures of Don Piper's demolished car, a picture of the bridge that he traveled on at the time of the accident, and pictures of Emergency Response personnel.


I am not necessarily doubting that Don Piper was in an accident, that he suffered massive injuries and that EMT's arrived at the crash site. I doubt the validity of the series of said events, mainly in Don actually being dead for 90 minutes and then suddenly coming back to life, singing no less, without brain damage.


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http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ (click “launch video” for prelude to Don Piper’s true life account)

http://www.truthsthattransform.org/ (click on this link then under the title, “90 Minutes in Heaven (Part 1) click the word “listen” then click “play.”

Why is Heaven real? Listen to this man’s true life story.


Dead people do not return from the dead. Those who have near death experiences (NDE) did not die; they nearly died. People who have had NDE who live in other cultures have experiences that are consistent with their culture. Therefore a Christian will have a Christian experience and Hindu will have a Hindu experience. This is proof of nothing, other then insight into the way that the brain works.


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Let me use your rationale as to why this doesn't happen to everyone. First of all, you have no evidence that it does not happen to "everyone." Now let me proceed. Why doesn't everyone walk on water (the only record that we have is Jesus and Peter who have done this). Why don't all people win the Lottery? Why don't all people get straight A's in school? Why aren't all people tall, short, good-looking etc.? Why aren't all people celebrities? Why did Jesus invariably select Peter, James, and John, instead of all twelve of His disciples for certain situations? So, I think you get the idea. You know you would have to ask God. I believe (and that is all it is my "belief") is that God permits certain people to experience spiritual things, Hell, and Heaven so that they can attest to their existence (respectively).



I think what he was asking was how come only some people experience a vision of Heaven or Hell, while others don't ?

You said those were Athiests who saw it for themselves...why can't all Athiests, Agnostics, or people of other Faiths experience this phenomena ?

Wouldn't God's "truths" be less easy to deny afterward ?


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Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven

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http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ (click “launch video” for prelude to Don Piper’s true life account)

http://www.truthsthattransform.org/ (click on this link then under the title, “90 Minutes in Heaven (Part 1) click the word “listen” then click “play.”

Why is Heaven real? Listen to this man’s true life story.
So did Betty Eadies experience life after death........It's quite a different story in her book Embraced by the Light

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I bet there are cases like this for every religion, crazy stuff like this, I know I have heard it for Islam and Bhuddism before. Really cool stories I will give you that.


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I believe Chirstianity is currently the only reliigon in the US that is loosing members.


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Nah, plenty are besides Christianity. But the Church is making a killing in the Third World right now (Africa, among other places).


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I wasn't aware...why didn't the Catholics elect a Latino or black pope then?


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