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Even if he is sent to prison, the latter is less likely than murder.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
when you murder, you erase everything they have ever done, and all that they will do. a pedophile victim can have counseling and live a halfway normal life.
....About as stupid as debbiejo's post.

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The way I see it, murder and paedophilia have so many different motives: fear, lust, sympathy, revenge etc. there are also different versions of murder and paedophilia. This thread is asking a simple question for a complex answer, which cannot be done. If one would take an average on how bad they rate the different types of paedophilia and murder, then compare the two averages of murder and paedophilia they would get a simple answer...but you can't judge bad. So we're kinda stuck.

If one would say murder is worse than paedophilia, then you're saying that Euthanasia is worse than raping an 8 yr old orphan analy. Again, if you're saying Paedophilia is worse than murder, you're saying being atracted to a young teen is worse than killing a 7,000,000 jews, or rather, Bardock's worse than Hitler.


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Euthanasia is assisted suicide more than murder.


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Re: Re: Re: What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

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Originally posted by Fishy
I would disagree there, a murder often has a far greater impact on society. Especially when people are killed because of their ideals and if they are known. The murder of one movie maker in this country has done so much more wrong then a hundred rapes have. The murder of one politician can do exactly the same.

For society as a whole murder often has a greater impact



Hmm..you make some interesting points. But I think the murder of one who is innocent and righteous - can have a far more beneficial affect on society, than the molestation of a child. Case in point -- you have heard of martrydom haven't you?(rhetorical question - no need to answer)


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Euthanasia is assisted suicide more than murder.
Some people class it as murder.


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Originally posted by lord xyz
Some people class it as murder.
The term murder requires that the act be due to malicious intent and the act be unjustifiable. Euthanasia entails neither of these qualifiers.


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The term murder requires that the act be due to malicious intent and the act be unjustifiable. Euthanasia entails neither of these qualifiers.
Hmm, what about passive Euthanasia, you didn't ask the person if they wanted to die, you just killed them because you thought it was best or did something that could've killed the victim but intentionally, it was for something else.


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Originally posted by lord xyz
Hmm, what about passive Euthanasia, you didn't ask the person if they wanted to die, you just killed them because you wanted to.
Then why refer to it as euthanasia. You're killing someone against their wishes. huh


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Then why refer to it as euthanasia. You're killing someone against their wishes. huh
Okay, I edited that post because I used the wrong words, I do that sometimes...


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Meh, it is actually classified as murder in most legal systems. I just don't see how it would fit the actual description of murder.

Obviously raping an 8 year old is worse than helping a terminally ill patient die at their request. But I doubt that's the type of "murder" the topic is referring to.


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, it is actually classified as murder in most legal systems. I just don't see how it would fit the actual description of murder.

Obviously raping an 8 year old is worse than helping a terminally ill patient die at their request. But I doubt that's the type of "murder" the topic is referring to.
Yes but it was a bold question, I don't like it when people generalise.


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Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes but it was a bold question, I don't like it when people generalise.


in some situations you can assume everybody knows what you mean...

Sometimes it's not needed to explain everything thoroughly, it's like saying in my opinion at the end of every thing you say in a debate, completely useless because it's obviously your opinion.


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Originally posted by Fishy
in some situations you can assume everybody knows what you mean...

Sometimes it's not needed to explain everything thoroughly, it's like saying in my opinion at the end of every thing you say in a debate, completely useless because it's obviously your opinion.
Eh?


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Re: Re: Re: Re: What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

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Hmm..you make some interesting points. But I think the murder of one who is innocent and righteous -



so it's only murder if you kill Christians? roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Murder is worse. The effects are permanent, and irreversible.

Molestation/Rape is horrible, but people have survived and overcome it before.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

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so it's only murder if you kill Christians? roll eyes (sarcastic)


If only Christians can be innocent and righteous...

Besides he did not say that only Christians can become a martyr, others can just as easily...


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If only Christians can innocent and righteous...

Besides he did not say that only Christians can become a martyr, others can just as easily...



In other threads he stated that only Christians know real Love, and only Christians know true righteousness.

Therefore, if his logic is consistant, then he is basically saying that Murder can only apply to someone who is innocent and righteous...a Christian.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
In other threads he stated that only Christians know real Love, and only Christians know true righteousness.

Therefore, if his logic is consistant, then he is basically saying that Murder can only apply to someone who is innocent and righteous...a Christian.


And the winner of completely distorting words - taking statements out of context, and blatant outright misrepresentation goes to --

Lord Urizen!!

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Murder.
Pedophilia is a condition, a term to discribe sexual arousal caused by children. All Pedophiles don't go around raping kids, They could seek counseling and lead a normal life without ever breaking the law.
Murder is the act of killign someone. I would say an act is worse than a condition. The question almost doesn't even matter. Its almost like saying What is worse, schizophrenia or Grand Larceny?


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