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Sixth_Winged
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Universes.

Universes =/= people.

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There are also exorbitant amounts of powerups, artifacts and beings who wield enough power to destroy universe, so that probably might not be best draw to cite Entropy's supremacy against all other attacks in the DCU or other multiverse.

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Universes =/= people. Any on panel?

Entropy erasing multiple universes in their entirety is all the proof I need that it is DC's equivalent of Marvel's nullification. If you're trying to downplay a force of that magnitude, then go right ahead. Maybe someone else will indulge that kind of...

ness. I can't/won't be bothered with it.

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Entropy erasing multiple universes in their entirety is all the proof I need that it is DC's equivalent of Marvel's nullification. If you're trying to downplay a force of that magnitude, then go right ahead. Maybe someone else will indulge that kind of... ness. I can't/won't be bothered with it.

Nah i'm just trying to gauge it's potency and credibility as "single most destructive force" in dcu.

Can't recall it being used on abstracts or skyfathers who might be able to fight back it's effect to draw a comparison.

Meanwhile the UN has been used to nullify the embodiment of destruction.. an actual abstract.

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If Thor spins his hammer to redirect whatever AE dishes, you guys reckon it won't backfire because of entropy blast's stature?

Just wondering

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Has Thor ever redirected a universal destroying blast?

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Has Thor ever redirected a universal destroying blast?

Can EA fire a universal destroying blast?

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Keep in mind to achieve power enough to destroy DCU Imperiex went through all kinds of planets siphoning them for a powerup to jumpstart it.

And a measly probe with some apokolitan enhancement somehow has more than Prime at the time?

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Even in Marvel , entropy has serious power . In Hickman's run on Fantastic Four ,in the future the Heat Death of the Universe(a state of entropy) caused all reality to collapse into a single timestream and go terminal . It taxed adult Frank's power to the point that he was sweating just to hold up his own pocket reality in that white space where all other timelines were collapsing . And ultimately he had to let go and make a run for it along with Valeria .

The Silver Surfer defeated two Proemial Gods by channeling the power of the Big Crunch through himself . The Crunch , based on modern scientific theory , is little more than the universe in an expanded state of entropy .

Unless and until magic can somehow grant resistance to the effects of entropy , I don't see any feasible way in which the team can win here .

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Ooh fortunately, Silver Surfer is on his thread..

then does that mean he'll solo?

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Even in Marvel , entropy has serious power . In Hickman's run on Fantastic Four ,in the future the Heat Death of the Universe(a state of entropy) caused all reality to collapse into a single timestream and go terminal . It taxed adult Frank's power to the point that he was sweating just to hold up his own pocket reality in that white space where all other timelines were collapsing . And ultimately he had to let go and make a run for it along with Valeria .

The Silver Surfer defeated two Proemial Gods by channeling the power of the Big Crunch through himself . The Crunch , based on modern scientific theory , is little more than the universe in a very high state of entropy .

Unless and until magic can somehow grant resistance to the effects of entropy , I don't see any feasible way in which the team can win here .

AE is seriously powerful.

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Ooh fortunately, Silver Surfer is on his thread..

then does that mean he'll solo?

Surfer had to be in the Crunch to channel its power . He almost got killed doing it . That was just natural entropy .

I don't know whether such a maneuver can be pulled off on a weaponized application of entropy as the Aegis armor represents .

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Surfer had to be in the Crunch to channel its power . He almost got killed doing it . That was just natural entropy .

I don't know whether such a maneuver can be pulled off on a weaponized application of entropy as the Aegis armor represents .

But he channeled it, and that means he can redirect it as well.

Keep in mind unlike AE blasts, those "natural entropy" are constant in the background and not some timely spurts.

Also didn't realize there's a difference between natural and whatever AE fires honestly?

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But he channeled it, and that means he can redirect it as well.

Keep in mind unlike AE blasts, we those "natural entropy" are constant in the background and not some timely spurts.

Also didn't realize there's a difference between natural and whatever AE fires honestly?

That's because the AE is already using entropic energies int this thread . When the Surfer channeled the Crunch through his body , nobody was wresting with him over its control . And he was almost killed during the process itself(unless I am mis-remembering) .

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EA would annihilate Surfer. Just like he did to Superman.

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EA would annihilate Surfer. Just like he did to Superman.

So Superman can redirect entropy now? Cause you apparently Silver Surfer can.

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AE is just too much. Even for Surfer.

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That's because the AE is already using entropic energies int this thread . When the Surfer channeled the Crunch through his body , nobody was wresting with him over its control . And he was almost killed during the process itself(unless I am mis-remembering) .

Oh really, well then has Imperiex or Aegis entropy has wrestled control of one of his blasts from a would be manipulator?

Does he have any onpanel feat that makes you guys think he can control it once he fires it?

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EA can control all energies (as seen in the respect thread). Surfer would be no match.

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Oh really, well then has Imperiex or Aegis entropy has wrestled control of one of his blasts from a would be manipulator?

Does he have any onpanel feat that makes you guys think he can control it once he fires it?

I am not going to continue going in circles regarding this issue . The Surfer almost got killed by being within the Crunch alone(that's how it happened apparently) . The AE , based on its design alone , handles entropic energies on a daily basis .The Aegis wins .

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