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TheGodKiller02
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Originally posted by zopzop
These are AvX scans, my trollish friend?
http://postimg.org/image/61779gm85/
http://postimg.org/image/px36p039h/

These certainly are, Zop Floppy the Flopth:
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"If im going to build a Phoenix killer ive got to figure out a way to crack universal expansion" i.e the Big Bang.

http://imageshack.com/a/img594/9589/avxzone017.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img141/8905...icfour52212.jpg


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Originally posted by Epicurus
These certainly are, Zop Floppy the Flopth:

Too bad I specifically mentioned POST AvX scans to abhi. You even quoted it and GS provided said scans.

You even fail at trolling correctly. thumb down


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Originally posted by zopzop
Too bad I specifically mentioned POST AvX scans to abhi. You even quoted it and GS provided said scans.

You even fail at trolling correctly. thumb down

Too bad you're too hung up over my trollery to actually read what my posts say about thee:
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Originally posted by Epicurus
Not to mention that the other post doesn't even mention the fact that GS once again referred hi fake and debunked Big Bang theory...by using AvX scans no less. The story which actually confirms that the PF isn't the Big Bang, but merely a being born after it.laughing out loud


Anyways, continue to preach the Gospel of Flop. The same gospel where Archangels can be hurt by Stone Age weaponry. Where the Phoenix is a fail but then spontaneously goes to being some badass powerhouse just because an old school poster whom you dream of fellating shows up randomly in a blue moon, after long time.laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Epicurus
Too bad you're too hung up over my trollery to actually read what my posts say about thee:


Anyways, continue to preach the Gospel of Flop where Archangels can be hurt by Stone Age weaponry.

Are you drunk?

The POST AVX scan confirms the PF/Big Bang theory mentioned by Reed PRIOR to AVX. Did you even read the scans GS posted? Jeezus. thumb down x's 10000


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Surtur is Odin lvl. Phoenix well written Galactus or higher lvl. Big difference


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Originally posted by zopzop
Are you drunk?

The POST AVX scan confirms the PF/Big Bang theory mentioned by Reed PRIOR to AVX. Did you even read the scans GS posted? Jeezus. thumb down x's 10000

I know exactly what you're talking about. I am pointing to your flopped approach in arbitrarily dismissing him using AvX scans to justify his debuked theory.

Those Uncanny scans are the same garbage, substance-less hyperbole which GS has posted before. None of which actually show the Phoenix, without a shadow of a doubt, being the Big Bang instead of being born from it. Nothing like the recent depiction of the Celestials being the creators of the multiverse. laughing out loud


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Yay Celestials


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for this match up, the full Phoenix Force is a multiversal power as demonstrated on panel and as stated in its latest handbook entry.

Surtur is not on that level. smile


I agree. Way more powerful than any skyfather.

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Originally posted by Epicurus
I know exactly what you're talking about. I am pointing to your flopped approach in arbitrarily dismissing him using AvX scans to justify his debuked theory.

Those Uncanny scans are the same garbage, substance-less hyperbole which GS has posted before. None of which actually show the Phoenix, without a shadow of a doubt, being the Big Bang instead of being born from it. Nothing like the recent depiction of the Celestials being the creators of the multiverse. laughing out loud


Substance-less?

You have Reed Richards explicitly stating that the Phoenix Force is the Big Bang.

You have the Phoenix Force stating on panel that it is the sum of all that is and the creator of the stars.

You have an on panel instance of where Galactus is disrupting the Forces connection to reality and the stars start fading which is on panel evidence that all the previous testimonies are correct. With the Watcher, Roma and Death all supporting the fact that its the Phoenixes power that prevents reality from being a void.

You have Tony Stark stating that to attempt to kill the Phoenix Force means figuring out how to crack "Universal expansion".

The evidence is numerous and from multiple reputable sources all portraying the same point throughout continuity, that the Phoenix Force is the sentient energies of creation and it manifests to perpetuate the creation cycle, being its own end which itself triggers the beginning of a new cycle.

http://imageshack.com/a/img862/5713...24story2p15.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img28/7550/uncannyxmen10473.jpg

The very reason why Eternity calls it the Resurrection Force. The assurance of a new cycle.

http://imageshack.com/a/img140/2/xmenforever0616.jpg


The point is made consistently throughout continuity. You cannot objectively deny that the Phoenix Force is the Big Bang and that it perpetuates the creation cycle.


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Originally posted by Epicurus

Those Uncanny scans are the same garbage, substance-less hyperbole which GS has posted before. None of which actually show the Phoenix, without a shadow of a doubt, being the Big Bang instead of being born from it.

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The PF died with everything else, and was then Re-Born in the Big Bang, just like everything else.

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That's what the PF remembers, being born from the Big bang:

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Cool, it fits perfectly with what her official handbook bio states.

It's the same shit every other Abstract/Concept remembers/knows ... and ... experiences likewise:

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Originally posted by zopzop

PF/Big Bang theory mentioned by Reed PRIOR to AVX.


I prefer to go with this 616 Reed Richards' depiction:

... cause uhh, ... he was actually there as a witness.

Anyway, the hyperbolic comedy has been officially put to rest several times On Panel but most notably in FF#531-532. (2006)

Phoenix (any version) has never created even a single Universe on panel,
so PF being the "spark that ignites" anything is a falacy that was never proven on panel,
and finally dismissed on panel likewise.


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The real Big Bang, (on panel) occurring!

The real "Spark" that ignites creation (on panel) occurring!

The real embodiment of the Big Bang (on panel) occurring!

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The Alien Entity transcends Marvel's Space/Time seemingly folding everything to it's Pre-Big Bang Void:

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The Alien Entity/Reed created the "Spark" that ignites the Fires/Engines of Creation:

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(literally)

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And indeed, the Alien Entity even manipulated the "Spark" into motion:

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"Let there be Light ... let the Universe itself ... become"

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The Big Bang in the flesh (on panel actually depicted)

... not talk, talk, talk, which = to hyperbole.

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Phoenix has only destroyed a single Alternate Universe twice,
both occasions took place in What if issues.


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Substance-less?

You have Reed Richards explicitly stating that the Phoenix Force is the Big Bang.

You have the Phoenix Force stating on panel that it is the sum of all that is and the creator of the stars.

You have an on panel instance of where Galactus is disrupting the Forces connection to reality and the stars start fading which is on panel evidence that all the previous testimonies are correct. With the Watcher, Roma and Death all supporting the fact that its the Phoenixes power that prevents reality from being a void.

You have Tony Stark stating that to attempt to kill the Phoenix Force means figuring out how to crack "Universal expansion".

The evidence is numerous and from multiple reputable sources all portraying the same point throughout continuity, that the Phoenix Force is the sentient energies of creation and it manifests to perpetuate the creation cycle, being its own end which itself triggers the beginning of a new cycle.

http://imageshack.com/a/img862/5713...24story2p15.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img28/7550/uncannyxmen10473.jpg

The very reason why Eternity calls it the Resurrection Force. The assurance of a new cycle.

http://imageshack.com/a/img140/2/xmenforever0616.jpg


The point is made consistently throughout continuity. You cannot objectively deny that the Phoenix Force is the Big Bang and that it perpetuates the creation cycle.


GS! been to f'n long bro......

pf dismantles surtur, btw. thumb up


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Hey friends... more Big Bangs artistically illustrated and the PF again had nothing to do with it,
not even indirectly, heck, not even alluded as even remotely responsible.

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The TRUE self perpetuating recycling of All That Is (Eternity-Infinity) ... On Panel, Big Bang occurring:

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The recycling of Eternity-Infinity years prior to Genis/Entropy ... oh yea, Big Bang style!

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There's also Sis-Neg and Thanos/HOTI ...

... other than that, no one's create/re-created Marvel from nothingness ...
and the one that started it all was the Infinity being.
(which was confirmed across two different MultiverseS ... yes ... on panel)

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Anyway ...

Can any soul post an image of the PF doing anything close to any of this? No?

... well, how about being involved indirectly? ... No?

... well, how about in a handbook? No?

... darn, oh well.


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Originally posted by zopzop
Too bad I specifically mentioned POST AvX scans to abhi. You even quoted it and GS provided said scans.

You even fail at trolling correctly. thumb down
laughing out loud


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Originally posted by quanchi112
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Quan, who do you think wins?


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Quan, who do you think wins?
Not epidural.


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Not epidural.

LOL. No, I meant between the PF and Surtur.


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LOL. No, I meant between the PF and Surtur.
Yeah, I know.


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Originally posted by Epicurus
What confrontations? The one where Rachel beats a weakened/hungry Galactus after a prolonged fight? Because that is the only "confrontation" which Phoenix has a legit win over Galactus. Others were mere stand-offs.

Tbh, I am willing to bet any high-end skyfather could take the fight to that version Galactus and put him on his ass quicker than Rachnix did.

All of them.

I don't think so.


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