I think Plagueis is a bit more powerful than Bane and same applies to Vader and Malgus. Revan would take Dooku but I think team 1 gets this in a really close fight.
I might be incline to give him the slight strength edge, yes. Slight, though.
Notably faster? That's a load of BS. Malgus easily matches him in speed. Vader is notably less maneuverable though.
Nah, he's not more powerful. Malgus embraced the darkside far more fully than Vader did. His power rivals Vaders, easily.
Nor is he significantly more skilled, either.
And I highly doubt he's that much more durable. Malgus' armor repelled lightsaber strikes, just as Vader's did and he walked away from getting blasted into a cliff and having it fall on him, after already tanking assault cannon fire and a thermal detonator to the face.
What esoteric powers?
I don't see your point. It's still an advantage that Malgus has that Vader doesn't. Marek was able to force Vader back with lightning and then defeat him with it. Malgus' lightning is superior to Mareks.
Oh, he definitely is. His skill feats already match Malgus's pre-ANH, and between then and ESB he is stated to have become a far more formidable duelist, and between then and RotJ stronger still.
We've seen Vader have 3 limbs slashed off and continue to fight.
Vader has moved faster than thought, has ran invisibly fast, has produced afterimages behind his blade, formed a shield out of his lightsaber blade, has deflected fire from dozens of shooters, etc.
Faster than thought is obviously hyperbole. Moving faster than the eye can see is a mid-tier speed feat in SW. Producing afterimages and forming a shield by spinning his saber is as well. And I thought he only actually deflected fire from 3 of those shooters.
I don't want to lowball Vader here, but I will just say that Vader has been stated as ''slow'' by average jedi and outmaneuvered via agility by average jedi more than once.
__________________ ''You are no warrior, Maul thought. You know nothing of the dark side.'' ★_Darth Maul Respect Thread_★
Do you think Vader might be the strongest Djem So user in the mythos? The only ones I can think of who rival him are Malgus and Bane.
No, he isn't. None of what you mentioned was as fast Aryn's feats and although she was faster than Malgus, he kept up with her fine and also became much more powerful after their duel.
Malgus isn't the most agile of dudes himself, but he still front-flips over Satele at the start of their fight, is very quick on his feet and in moving his body and jumps around quite a bit. Going off of the trailers.
(please log in to view the image)
Not Malgus.
Malgus' skill simply has less elaboration than Vader's does. He was one of the greatest warriors in the Empire even before the war, 40 years before his prime and was constantly fighting and improving himself. He outdueled some of the premier duelists of his era.
Because he has mechanical limbs.
Also that's not durability.
Hardly ground-breaking. Kinetite is just focused TK, similar to how Malgus' Maelstrom is just TK, Barrier and Lightning combined. And since when was TP considered esoteric?
That was way before his prime, and that obviously isn't reflective of the feats Newguy posted as they're all superior showings. Malgus has very few speed feats and they're all showings Vader has done. Even in spite of Aryn's speed, Malgus kept up with her and outfought her. Speed is not an issue for Vader, unless your someone like Plagueis or Palpatine.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
He cannot atomize anyone, it's a misconception. In book it says "all but atomized". Basically book doesn't say what exactly happened to them but you can imagine anything but being atomized.
With a wave or his hand he disintegrated the ones closest near them, even if it was partial (which there is no evidence for) thats still a tremendous amount of energy to break down armored torso and most of their bodies. This is a feat well beyond the power of anyone on team 2, he did this unamped and still wasnt going full force by his own admission
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Aug 14th, 2014 05:53 AM
