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I read somewhere over at SHC that the only reason DD was able to cut Superman was due to his Kryptonian DNA. It was in a interview by one of the Superman writers during the DOS arc stating the fact. I don't know if it's true or not.


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Personally i think the whole force shield thing is a load of crap that byrne added in his revamp of supes.


Well it would explain why his suit is never harmed as well.


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I read somewhere over at SHC that the only reason DD was able to cut Superman was due to his Kryptonian DNA. It was in a interview by one of the Superman writers during the DOS arc stating the fact. I don't know if it's true or not.


Sounds more or less like a bullshit excuse. I always say it's because of applied force.


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what fan boy about it. I feel adamatium is more durable since it is unbreakable. superman is not he still bleeds he can be hurt.

How ever logan has no posable way of hurting supes due to strength factor


Goodness Capt it Up ....you should seriously consider a career in the Occult!

Why?

Because you have the amazing ability to summon up long dead entities from the netherworld and bring them back to life.

Take me for example ....I've been absent for the last several months from KMC (international business and the like), but I decide to check what's been happening on the fan-boy front and, lo and behold, I discover that Cap it Up is back to his Wolverine8888 habits.

And thus I am back!

Now, let me tell you why Wolverine would have ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance of cutting Superman (even a wee bit).
The reason is, as several people have mentioned, his aura.

There is no way that Wolvie's claws are passing through that.

Now, there are two ways of going through that aura:

1) If Wolvie's claws were to be enchanted, in which case his now-magical ginsu knives would slash through Superman like a hot knife through soft butter. Problem is that Wolvie's claws are not magic (unless you want to count in Fan Boy energy, which is nigh miraculous in its silliness)

2) If somehow Superman's energy levels are so drained that his aura fails. This would require Wolverine to get his strength (and speed - since he has to be able to actually catch up with Supes to use his augmented strength) amped up to astoundingly high levels, and the thing is that Wolverine is not even a tenth of 1% at the strength level required to even come close to being a physical threat to Superman.

Consequently this means one thing .....Wolverine is NOT able to cut Superman.

Oh, one more thing.

You have claimed in the past to be an authority on Wolverine (well, this was during the time you called yourself Wolverine8888, but I am assuming you still believe that you know a lot about Wolverine).

Thus you MUST know that Wolvie's claws are said to be able to cut through ALMOST anything ....not being able to cut through anything (there is a big difference between being able to cut almost anything and being able to cut anything).

You must also know that one of the things that Wolvie's claws CANNOT cut through is a ....you guessed it ....a FORCEFIELD.

This has been written several times over the years in comics with Wolvie, an example being when he faced off against Stryfe and was hacking and slashing (in vain) at which point Stryfe told him that while his claws can cut through almost (again: ALMOST) anything one of the things they cannot get through is a forcefield.

Now, what is Superman's bio-aura?

It is one of the stronger forcefields around .....not the strongest by any means (not even close), but still so amazingly potent that Wolverine would have no chance cutting through it.

Superman could simply stand there and let Wolvie do his slashing thing to no avail.

The fact remains that while Wolverine is a cool character (even though fan boy worship dilutes the brand), he is SIMPLY NOT a character who can (without PIS/CIS) face off against ANY top-tier character.
For instance against the Hulk (which Wolvie has been shown fighting in some of the most profound PIS/CIS charades ever), the Hulk (if written correctly) could simply give the Cannuck one solid slap and send him flying to the next state!

Anyways, staying within the confines of Superman being cut by Wolverine .....that would never happen unless Wolvie became magic, or Wolvie got the strength and speed of someone at least on WonderWoman's/Martian Manhunter's levels.

Barring that Wolverine cannot cut Superman.


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Originally posted by spetznaz
Goodness Capt it Up ....you should seriously consider a career in the Occult!

Why?

Because you have the amazing ability to summon up long dead entities from the netherworld and bring them back to life.

Take me for example ....I've been absent for the last several months from KMC (international business and the like), but I decide to check what's been happening on the fan-boy front and, lo and behold, I discover that Cap it Up is back to his Wolverine8888 habits.

And thus I am back!

Now, let me tell you why Wolverine would have ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance of cutting Superman (even a wee bit).
The reason is, as several people have mentioned, his aura.

There is no way that Wolvie's claws are passing through that.

Now, there are two ways of going through that aura:

1) If Wolvie's claws were to be enchanted, in which case his now-magical ginsu knives would slash through Superman like a hot knife through soft butter. Problem is that Wolvie's claws are not magic (unless you want to count in Fan Boy energy, which is nigh miraculous in its silliness)

2) If somehow Superman's energy levels are so drained that his aura fails. This would require Wolverine to get his strength (and speed - since he has to be able to actually catch up with Supes to use his augmented strength) amped up to astoundingly high levels, and the thing is that Wolverine is not even a tenth of 1% at the strength level required to even come close to being a physical threat to Superman.

Consequently this means one thing .....Wolverine is NOT able to cut Superman.

Oh, one more thing.

You have claimed in the past to be an authority on Wolverine (well, this was during the time you called yourself Wolverine8888, but I am assuming you still believe that you know a lot about Wolverine).

Thus you MUST know that Wolvie's claws are said to be able to cut through ALMOST anything ....not being able to cut through anything (there is a big difference between being able to cut almost anything and being able to cut anything).

You must also know that one of the things that Wolvie's claws CANNOT cut through is a ....you guessed it ....a FORCEFIELD.

This has been written several times over the years in comics with Wolvie, an example being when he faced off against Stryfe and was hacking and slashing (in vain) at which point Stryfe told him that while his claws can cut through almost (again: ALMOST) anything one of the things they cannot get through is a forcefield.

Now, what is Superman's bio-aura?

It is one of the stronger forcefields around .....not the strongest by any means (not even close), but still so amazingly potent that Wolverine would have no chance cutting through it.

Superman could simply stand there and let Wolvie do his slashing thing to no avail.

The fact remains that while Wolverine is a cool character (even though fan boy worship dilutes the brand), he is SIMPLY NOT a character who can (without PIS/CIS) face off against ANY top-tier character.
For instance against the Hulk (which Wolvie has been shown fighting in some of the most profound PIS/CIS charades ever), the Hulk (if written correctly) could simply give the Cannuck one solid slap and send him flying to the next state!

Anyways, staying within the confines of Superman being cut by Wolverine .....that would never happen unless Wolvie became magic, or Wolvie got the strength and speed of someone at least on WonderWoman's/Martian Manhunter's levels.

Barring that Wolverine cannot cut Superman.


Daaaaaaaaamn.


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while it is always a pleasure to see your posts Spetz, I think you may be going a bit harsh on capt :P

he seems to have accepted the bio aura thing, I think he was complaining about how the thread was obviously spite in light of it.

Good post as always though, glad to see you back stick out tongue


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Re: Wolverine gets a clean shot on Supes

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Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Superman is standing there in a Jesus pose, and Wolverine is pissed. Why? How the hell should I know. He's the best at what he does, and he's good at being a pissed off hairy Canadian.

Anywho. Superman's gonna stand there and give him a shot. Can Wolverine cut him?

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If this were written in a comic, he'd cut Superman though. Just to appease the fanboys. I really wish people wouldn't downplay characters just because they got cut by Wolverine, because it's obvious that plot devices go snikt.

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I shoulda made it over a knocked out Professor X and he's making out with Kitty Pryde, just to piss Wolverine off more.

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I shoulda made it over a knocked out Professor X and he's making out with Kitty Pryde, just to piss Wolverine off more.

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Sounds more or less like a bullshit excuse. I always say it's because of applied force.

Congratulations. You have managed to create a spite thread that attacks not only Wolverine, but Superman as well. That's BOTH of the heros that people love to bash endlessly more than any other in this forum for the price of ONE! And all in one single thread. What "insight" are you looking for exactly? capt is completely right. You created this thread just so a bunch of disgruntled fans could take turns insulting both contestants and laugh at each others jokes. The overall tone of your posts clarifies your intentions. This thread should be closed.


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lol

I thought it was a fair question...

I guess I didn't know about the bio field prior to this really....


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Originally posted by inamilist
lol

I thought it was a fair question...

I guess I didn't know about the bio field prior to this really....


It wasn't the question itself, but the way it was asked and the way the characters were portrayed.


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Congratulations. You have managed to create a spite thread that attacks not only Wolverine, but Superman as well. That's BOTH of the heros that people love to bash endlessly more than any other in this forum for the price of ONE! And all in one single thread. What "insight" are you looking for exactly? capt is completely right. You created this thread just so a bunch of disgruntled fans could take turns insulting both contestants and laugh at each others jokes. The overall tone of your posts clarifies your intentions. This thread should be closed.


Contratulations. You've succeeded in being a total jackass and blaming me for something that isn't there. Not only are you grasping at straws, but projecting your love for hairy canadians, thus your name and signature. The overall tone of your posts clarifies that. You should be tarred and feathered.

Seriously kid, this is a forum. If you take these things that seriously, you may wanna finish seventh grade and come back when you've developed a sense of humor. I wanted to see people's thoughts on this to see if there was a way to penetrate the bio-aura.

Please don't take this so seriously.

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Re: Re: Wolverine gets a clean shot on Supes

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Congratulations. You have managed to create a spite thread that attacks not only Wolverine, but Superman as well. That's BOTH of the heros that people love to bash endlessly more than any other in this forum for the price of ONE! And all in one single thread. What "insight" are you looking for exactly? capt is completely right. You created this thread just so a bunch of disgruntled fans could take turns insulting both contestants and laugh at each others jokes. The overall tone of your posts clarifies your intentions. This thread should be closed.



So, what you're saying is... Jesse Leach > Howard Jones? evil face


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^ Xmarks, what does the greek lettering on your sig say? I can only remember half the letters of the alphabet right now.
Xmarksthespot... not very original I'll admit.


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So, what you're saying is... Jesse Leach > Howard Jones? evil face


Good to see another KSE fan. big grin


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cool, thanks

so if it was a superman without the bio aura, would wolvie cut him then?



Glimmerone- It's impossible for Superman to be without his bio aura, Its a natural part of him, its the product of his cells, each and every one of them(his cells) are invulnerable, solar-charged and as a result of this his body gives off an aura which serves some wonderful purposes like helping his already excellent system of collecting and dispursing of energy be even more effective.

The Aura also protects his suit/costume from being torn easily. He does not have a force field in the traditonal sense, as like in sci-fi movies or like invisible woman who has an out side shield that she can make to protect her body or other super heroes who use tech to form an outside shield. Superman is invulnerable, not just highly durable with a outside covering that is separate from his body's abilty to protect itself. Every cell of his body is super tuff and resilient, and filled with solar energy, that gives off an aura just like our sun gives off an aura of energy.

Superman's body is like a humaniod sun, and his bio-aura is his corona, just like the Sun has a corona that comes from the power and energy within itself, so is the case with Superman, his internal power makes the aura what it is, an outside extension of what's inside, sun power converted to bio-power. That's why Superman is so powerful, that's why he doesn't really need to eat, sleep etc.. I just decided to write this, since when people talk about Superman's physical durability, they seem to speak so commonly of it as do to some force field, as like in the most commonly referred to type of force field, an outside force protecting him but if you could get through the outside shield, his body will be easily harm. Its not like that, its his body itself.

If you are someone like Doomsday, who is at base levels his exact physical equal with tireless stamina and unending fury, after a extremely tiresome battle, his solar reserves would become more used up and he would be able to be bruised or hurt easier, but that's would take someone like Doomsday, or Kryptonite or magic which bypasses all laws of the natural world and even thoroughly affects the supernatural world, so will affect Superman. Solar energy is to Superman's body in terms of power, what food, water, and air is to our bodies.

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Contratulations. You've succeeded in being a total jackass and blaming me for something that isn't there. Not only are you grasping at straws, but projecting your love for hairy canadians, thus your name and signature. The overall tone of your posts clarifies that. You should be tarred and feathered.

Seriously kid, this is a forum. If you take these things that seriously, you may wanna finish seventh grade and come back when you've developed a sense of humor. I wanted to see people's thoughts on this to see if there was a way to penetrate the bio-aura.

Please don't take this so seriously.

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Jeez. Now that you have insulted me several times I totally see your side of things. My bad. Sorry I ever doubted your sincerity. I WILL work on my sense of humor and my tolerance of immature people who have nothing better to do than create spite threads just to draw draw out and argue with fans trying to defend their character. I may need some advice from you on which characters to make fun of to get people to like me in the shortest amount of time, since you got it down cold.

If you really wanted to "see peoples thoughts on this to see if there was a way to penetrate the bio-aura" why not simply ask? Why go through all that scenario that was disrespectful to both characters? Why wait for other people to bring up facts just to say statements like "This is what I was hoping people would bring up." instead of posting them yourself for people to offer a counterargument to? Be honest now, you definitely had capt in mind when you started this thread. You knew he would come running to defend his guy and his irrational Wolverine defending is some of the most entertaining stuff on this forum lately. This was all nothing more than spite intended to instigate arguments.

Well, I better get going. Seventh grade isn't going to graduate itself and I have to start looking for some tar and feathers.


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Jeez. Now that you have insulted me several times I totally see your side of things. My bad. Sorry I ever doubted your sincerity. I WILL work on my sense of humor and my tolerance of immature people who have nothing better to do than create spite threads just to draw draw out and argue with fans trying to defend their character. I may need some advice from you on which characters to make fun of to get people to like me in the shortest amount of time, since you got it down cold.

If you really wanted to "see peoples thoughts on this to see if there was a way to penetrate the bio-aura" why not simply ask? Why go through all that scenario that was disrespectful to both characters? Why wait for other people to bring up facts just to say statements like "This is what I was hoping people would bring up." instead of posting them yourself for people to offer a counterargument to? Be honest now, you definitely had capt in mind when you started this thread. You knew he would come running to defend his guy and his irrational Wolverine defending is some of the most entertaining stuff on this forum lately. This was all nothing more than spite intended to instigate arguments.

Well, I better get going. Seventh grade isn't going to graduate itself and I have to start looking for some tar and feathers.


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Seeing if Wolverine can cut Supes disrespects both characters, but having him always beating people way out of his tier isnt disrespectful to characters?? That makes no sense to me.

Past that though, he doesn't make it through the forcefield.

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To Marvel fans, they'd want him to cut the kryptonian, like he's cut damn near everyone else.

I want to see Wolverine fail to cut him then die in amazement that he did something realistic.

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what fan boy about it. I feel adamatium is more durable since it is unbreakable. superman is not he still bleeds he can be hurt.

Ehh... I don't see how you could realistically put one over the other. Obviously both can be broken, because everything has its limit, but neither have really been damaged without ambiguous means.

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Well, yeah. If he doesn't have the aura, he's arguably just like a normal man, if his power creates it.

I think if the forcefield thing still holds true, its energy would makes his cells more attracted to each other, like magnets.


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