Did you just imply Mandrakk would be beyond the HOTU. Nothing Mandrakk did on panel was even close to what Thanos did with the HOTU. Not only would the LT dispose of Mandrakk imo but at best they would stalemate. However, the HOTU wtf pwns mr. I got dealt with by superman and some GL's
Everything in the comic is the narrative, there's no "outside" for these fictional characters and the Monitors don't jump "outside" they merely feed on the stories that make up the dc multiverse. Narrative is narrative.
edit: that's why I said reality hoping isn't part of she hulk's powerset within the confines of her fictional existence, she's a hulk. At least with Mxy it's perfectly within his 5 dimensional abilities.
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So can the Surfer do what? The Surfer can manip the will power spectrum, the quantum field, the speed force? He can manip a power not tied to the PC? ( I hope you didn't mean the fantastic four)
The difference is Takion manips the essence of what makes all those powers come to be. Magic or otherwise, all those forces are from the Source.
EDIT: Again go to the Takion vs Inbetweener thread Inbetwweener might have been spelled with I-B or something of the sought. Either way you have enough for a search. I've been over this before, head to the relevant thread.
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Wrong.
Classic She-Hulk during Byrne's 60 issue run was overwhelmed with 4th wall destruction.
And, it is actually part of She-Hulk's powerset
to know she's being watched by human beings, (basically she knows what she is & where she's at)
it's literally mentioned in her official Marvel Handbook 09' bio.
But that aside,
she's written more seriously now, but ...
if you wanna come with this "eating/feeding" on story whatever googoo,
then I'll just have Scathan re-create Byrne's She-Hulk and that will settle things.
For <Mandrakk maybe but not for the likes of she hulk and mxy. Mandrakk can be defeated in the story as well.
Yes, it is. She did it. It's like you want to ignore everything and continue to recite the eating story crap and when someone proves to you that she can jump out it you cry foul.
That is from the dc universe. Takion cannot manipulate things from the marvel verse while the surfer cannot manipulate from the dc universe.
Takion still can't take down Imperiex, the Spectre, etc. You haven't proven he is the badass you claim him to be but more or less another Surfer type character.
I proved my points. I am done with it since you want to give it up.
I know from experience there's no winning this debate with you. But I know you know what I mean when I say it's not an essential part of her character. Otherwise Banner would be doing the same.
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Go to the thread. Everything down to the actual limits of his abilities are explained. The only thing holding back Takion's abilities is the degree of Sander's will.
EDIT: And as far as maniping Marvel forces that goes without saying, but in a vs setting if we choose to eliminate those restrictions it would be a perfectly viable outcome. Hence the IG vs (insert non Marvel foe) threads which i'm sure you've participated in.
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but still reppin naija
lolwut? U showed nothing that put him above trans level let alone abstract. U continuously misrepresented feats,left out context contradicted urself, and tried to be deliberately equivocal in order to twist the true purpose of the argument.
At best all u did was confirm his placement in the trans tier. If u think u somehow justified ur initial laughable claim........id advise u to try and see how many people u convinced he is abstract level.
Back on topic, Scathan FTW.
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The methods in which Mandrakk is being described in this thread are... eccentric (to say the least)... But there is some truth behind the words.
You see, Mandrakk's power is quite unquantifiable. He does in fact feed off the continuously evolving hyper-story of DC itself. Not only that, but he had also been feeding off the Bleed for an untold amount of time - almost killing the multiverse in the process. That's the level this guy operates at.
This is why it not only took a 'thought robot' capable of instantly adapting to combat any threat (inc. Mandrakk's "eternal power"):
But this 'thought robot' had to be powered/animated by a being who's conceptual story was more powerful than Mandrakk's. That's why it could only be Superman:
I feel that the above scan may be pertinent, because as you know, Monitors are capable of withstanding big bangs at ground zero, with no ill-effect - yet Mandrakk fried one effortlessly. *shrug*
Anyhow, that was in no way an argument meant to describe my feelings as to how Mandrakk might take this battle. I was just giving you some unbiased clarification, is all.
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I gave you the relevant scans that confirmed he was abstract, I wasn't being equivocal. Of course if you deliberately chose not to check out the scans, a pointless circular argument ensues.
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Iboga chose not to fight, to allow himself to evolve. He had the wisdom to abandon the actions of war when he knew they would no longer serve him.
Takion still is nowhere near as powerful as the Iman as the source's agent or Mxy, etc. He is like a Surfer character that you are massively overrating.
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