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Charlotte DeBel
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Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm no expert on Zatarra but is she really an appropriate pick for this kind of thing? Seems like I remember some people giving her the win over guys like Thanos and Dr. Strange. In fact now it seems like batdude shot her down as a pick during his last "Under Thanos" tourney.

I mean don't get me wrong because I'm not all that familiar with her so she may very well be a suitable pick, I just figured it was worth checking on.


1. She prefers to be called by 1st name.
2. In Thanos thread only hardcore Thanos haters argue that Zee can win more than one round out of 10. The only way the rate can be boosted is via giving Zee the onesided prep.
3. She's probably the top pick as mage in the tourney... though I admit, getting Classic Strange banned made me rethink some draft plans. And Batdude OK'd Zee personally... mostly due to the thing that she prefers single way of casting- logomancy... potent, yes... hard to negate- no, if you know how.

She's also rated top of mid herald tier (prolly high herald) as per debates in the tier thread. And Batdude's tourney was largely a inbetweneer between hearsay and scans. Otherwise I can't imagine banning Zee AND allowing Black Alice.


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Charlotte DeBel
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Originally posted by King Kandy
Now that you think about it it seems like every versus thread she's in, people are like "she'll just say 'eid' and win". Pretty much no matter the opponent.


Which is stupid, if you think about itsmile And people say all sorts of things in those... In fact, there's no way she's more powerful that Dr Strange or Dr Fate...that's where things start getting banned.
A lot of her high end feats are Vertigo=dubious canonicity.

But if the directors of the tourney are against Zee, we'll happily replace her with someone else. But considering OHK is banned anyways, and based on her strictly canon feats... she's OK, creme de la creme pick but OK.

I'll happily draft another person instead of Zee IF there's concrete proof her average showings are more than high herald level. Not what random people say in random threads...
Word of tourney directors work as well. I'm not going to throw a bitchfest.


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TheKahn
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Confirmed Teams and Drafted Characters


Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki


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Zatanna says something backwards and it happens. She's like the Doctor, but with a more stupid plot device through which to channel her powers. The potential is there for beyond herald, unless there's actual limits on what she can pronounce into being. I see no problems with anyone else on the list.

Goober, I'm surprised you didn't talk Blair into your He-Man/Skeletor idea. That would've be comedy.


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Seriously, she has temporarily taken star breaker down. Her fight with Amazo can give you the intention that she has no limits


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TheKahn
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Any other comments on Zatarra?
Is there anything she can do that Surfer or a GL can't? confused


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Any other comments on Zatarra?
Is there anything she can do that Surfer or a GL can't? confused

Anything she can say backwards that GL or Surfer can't do...


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I for one have no qualms with Zatarra.


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While i trust Charlotte and Psycho not to abuse Zatanna's powerset, the potential for such a powerful character with the mindset of a debator isn't exactly a nice thought, imo.


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Anything she can say backwards that GL or Surfer can't do...
i'd like to see her evolve a planet's entire populace a billion years into their genetic potential.

food for though, the human race has been around for about 2 million give or take, and things only started happening around 30,000 years ago. erm

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While i trust Charlotte and Psycho not to abuse Zatanna's powerset,
i never abuse women


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"Id"
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Come one, if we ban Zatarra might well banned any and all energy/matter manipulators who can accomplish the same feat with a stray thought.

Team Psycho/Charlotte will not produce a claim that has not been shown on panel. And no simply wording her comments backwards, will not produce a spell.

Ex. Gib Gnab Tsalb, will not all of sudden produce Big Bang Blast.


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I'm back bitches.

Me and KM are teaming up [SPOILER - highlight to read]: No offense to Jake, but our current draft would not work well/I heard you're going with Rage and we're drafting the following:

Captain Comet: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Comet
Nate Grey: http://marvel.wikia.com/Nathan_Grey_(Earth-295)


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
i'd like to see her evolve a planet's entire populace a billion years into their genetic potential.

food for though, the human race has been around for about 2 million give or take, and things only started happening around 30,000 years ago. erm

i never abuse women


i noticed you didn't include the word "yet" in your statement.


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superman will do it before her


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Originally posted by Digi
Zatanna says something backwards and it happens. She's like the Doctor, but with a more stupid plot device through which to channel her powers. The potential is there for beyond herald, unless there's actual limits on what she can pronounce into being. I see no problems with anyone else on the list.

Goober, I'm surprised you didn't talk Blair into your He-Man/Skeletor idea. That would've be comedy.

I thought about it for a minute, but the High Herald cap on this thing wouldn't have allowed for it wink .


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TheKahn
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Confirmed Teams and Drafted Characters


Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Nate Grey




With 8 teams we can move on to third round of the draft. The time for it will be announced as soon as possible as will an answer to the question of Zatanna.


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Carl - "This line, here? Line of Death. You cross it, and your freedoms no longer exist. Um-kay? Have a good day."

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Third Round of the draft will be held tonight at 9pm EST (so that everyone can have the time around christmas off).


Also, we've decide to allow Zatanna so long as she follows the rules applicable to everyone else. And as with other characters/teams, we'll be on the lookout for anything that seems to violate the letter or spirit of the rules. no expression


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