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I actually meant Bane, but I would definitely say the same for Plagueis.
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I didn't want to go further than 12 on each side, so someone had to get cut. In the end, it was Marka Ragnos. I apologize to those who think he should be on the list, but I couldn't justify keeping him over anyone else. As for Kenobi over Katarn, I honestly think Obi-Wan could give Kyle a good fight, but I gave Kenobi the edge, because I felt he had better Force showings.
Lol @ Bane being above Kun, Krayt, Malgus, and Vader
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I find it curious that you ended up placing Jacen above Yoda, but I won't argue it considering Solo is a bamf of similar proportion.
Interesting. Why?
Nah, Satele is good but not this high. Even at her peak she was never able to achieve more than a stalemate against Dark Council level opponents like Darth Mehkis and Darth Baras.
I'd consider bumping him up a few notches. This guy is much more of a beast than many give him credit for.
Not a bad list, in the long run. I myself find Exar Kun to be overrated, but the place you have him at is reasonable from certain perspective.
I also don't think Darth Revan is necessarily greater than Krayt or Tyranus, especially during his time pre-Rebirth.
No reason to count him, Bane is shit without a nexus or his orbalisks and this is why I disincluded him on my list. He wasn't described as having "unparalleled lightsaber prowess", never blitzed four knights, didn't collapse a cathedral, or even beat anyone by virtue of his own skill.
His orbalisks are a cute toy to mask his weakness though
Registered: Mar 2014
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Bane is not weak or shit. Once again you choose to ignore the numerous accolades and feats he does have due to your irrational hatred of him.
You do this to Vitiate, Revan, and Zannah as well.
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Kun off nexus one shot Odan Urr (on a lightside nexus), killed Vodo with one downward strike, and defeated his master while still a padwan. More impressive than Bane getting trashed by Sirrak, constantly needing a nexus to win fights, and never winning any fight by virtue of his own skill. Kun is a better force user and a significantly better duelist.
Thanks for the kind words. I put Kyp Durron at 4 because of his Force abilities. being able to manipulate artificial black holes (dovin basals) is no small feat, and one I believe only Luke has replicated. Luke himself regarded Kyp as "frighteningly powerful", and Kyp was the only Jedi suggested by Vergere to be the next Sith Lord, other than the Skywalker lineage.
I can see your point on Satele, and I can move her down to #9 and move the other three up. Unfortunately, while I agree Anakin is a beast in ROTS, I think Mace is still ahead of him, and the Barsen'thor is regarded here as being above Mace and below the Hot (himself below Yoda). So, I can really only move Anakin up one space.
TOTJ and DLOTS were the first Star Wars books I ever read, so I still view him as a terror to behold, but I think he's placed pretty well. I agree that Dooku probably should be higher on the list, but I wasn't sure where to place him.
This isn't a fight, but in DOE, he was practicing his saber moves, when it started to rain. He quickly changed to Soresu and blocked every rain drop that fell, so by the time it stopped, he was still dry. Quite impressive, considering Soresu isn't his preferred style.
I've thought about the Dorvin Basals as impressive as well, considering even Luke had a harder time with it than Kyp, but I really am not sure what it means to manipulate them.
The only way I can conceive Mace taking Anakin for a majority is by channeling Anakin's fury with Vaapad and thus increasing his own base capabilities, but he has no such advantage when considering a top 10.
I'm sure I could produce a valid argument for Anakin being superior to Mace at the latter's base strength, if you're willing to take the time to debate it.
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As far as skill goes, before his prime he was initially pressing back Kas'im before Kas'im switched to Jar'kai, he outmaneuvered Lsu and hurled her to the ground with an unpredictable maneuver which is something he vastly improved on in DOE, and he beat the shit out of Zannah, who is a defensive master, in their saber fight. He's thrown down with several duelists who are masters in their own right.
Name one fight that Bane has lost without his opponents having a situational advantage.
You seem to have an obsession with shitting on characters who are practically extremely powerful characters according to canon, and calling them weak and shit just because you hate them.
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Neither of which prove anything I asked for, because Kun has beaten Vodo before and him defeating him a second time isn't terribly out of line with his abilities.
Secondly, other than his amulet amplifying his rage on Yavin nowhere is it implicitly stated that they amped him in any other exertion of his power. Not that it's a lot to disagree about, but I'm not really seeing it
Jun 18th, 2014 06:21 AM
