There is none, so I'm not gonna argue it, but Revan's got a shitload of knowledge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nihilus, and Kreia blows Revan more than Nihilus.
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Why is it just the drain? Nihilus does things like pull fleets otu of gravity wells and supply atmosphere to a ship and being in his mere presence drains you of life and will.
Revan can do that?
Depends on who you ask. It's impossible to tell because Sidious never fed on planets like Nihilus does.
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A. In the Rule of Two, both Master and Apprentice take the title of Dark Lord of the Sith.
B. We have no clue where Nihilus was when Revan was leading his Sith Empire. He might have been still training on Malachor V.
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revan was clearly quite the powerhouse, but hes in no way even in nihilus' league from what we know, so its more logical to consider nihilus as being more powerful
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He used the entire dark side of malachor and used it against the mandalorian fleet i think and by the way again nihilus never pulled a fleet, he pulled A ship as the loading screen stated and out of universe explanations are canon and more credible than an ingame character
This is why Nihilus is probably one of the worst characters ever. They made WAY to powerful. Singlehandedly draining a planet, his force drain is too good, then he has really powerful tk. The only thing he doesn't have (or as far as I know) is great skill with the lightsaber. If Sidious didn't have the quotes about him being the most powerful sith then I'm sure people would be claiming it could be Nihilus.
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Please stop rehashing the same untrue crap over and over again. Nihilus has more than just one technique. He has extremely powerful TK (pulling the Ravager out of the mass shadow of Malachor) and has extreme levels of mind control (controlling all of the minds of his ships crewers all of the time with ease). Nihilus is a freakin beast. The ONLY person who can resist his Force Drain is the Exile and that's because he was a wound in the Force. There is zero logic behind the mindset that the Fallanassi technique being able to protect someone from Nihilus' Force Drain with no adverse affects. Kreia, who knew Nihilus' the Force Drain ability very well; well enough to kill three powerful Jedi Masters with a wave of her hand, was unable to defend herself from it.
And lets take a look at his fight against the Exile. The fight was far from even.
1. The Exile and the people he is linked to are the only ones who he can't drain with the Force.
2. The Exile had the help of Visas, who was powerful in her own right and knew Nihilus well, and had Mandalore, who was perhaps the most deadly non-Force user ever to live with the exception of Shimrra.
3. Nihilus was controlling the minds of probably thousands of people during the fight. Actively controlling them. That'd be impressive even without the fact that he was also holding the entire ship together and was fighting three extremely powerful people, plus on top of that appears to have been weakened when he first attempted to drain the Exile, with those things it's borderline ridiculous.
4. Like I just mentioned, it appears that he had been weakened during his attempt to drain the Exile. Had he been at full strength the outcome of the fight could very well have been different.
So I see no reason for anyone to say that Revan was stronger than Nihilus.
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There is NO proof of Mira being very powerful, and there is NO proof of Mandalore being "the most powerful non-Force user ever to live". Bring real facts or at least quotes, because as far as I remember Mandalore himself says he's not quite as strong as he once was, because you as the Exile can tell him you expected the leader of the Mandalorians, Mandalore, to be much tougher than he actually is.
Nihilus cannot drain the Exile because he is a wound in the Force, but without counting on that, I'd consider the Exile to be a slightly-aboce-average Jedi, and he easily defeated Nihilus in saber combat. The only special thing Nihilus has is his mega-Force drain. Other than that, he has nothing special.
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Her name is Visas and she was infact powerful. All Jedi are powerful. She wasn't necessarily real high up by Force User standards, but she was still powerful.
Name someone stronger.
Just because he's not as strong as he once was doesn't mean he's not still strong. Luke wasn't as good at lightsaber combat after he lost his mechanical hand in the LOTF books. Would you use that as an argument for him being weak? Of course not.
Who cares what the Exile expected to see. Anakin expected that no one could kill a Jedi. That's not true. They're still number one. Canderous says that he's not as tough as he once was, but now he uses his experience and intelligence to make up for it.
Then you're a bit ignorant to the facts. The Exile was capable of learning entire lightsaber forms extremely quickly. She took fought through the entire Trayus Academy, killed Sion, and then took on Kreia, eliminating the known Sith in the galaxy herself. She's actually VERY powerful.
I see you didn't read my post very well. Nihilus lifted the Ravager from the mass shadows of Malachor. I don't think even Yoda could do that judging from his prior feats. And you totally skipped the fact that he controlled the minds of all of the Ravager's crewers ON A CONSTANT BASIS. I mean are you blind or something.
Who else could actively control the minds of thousands of people while also holding the largest ship in existence ship together and fight three powerful people in a weakened state?
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