The whole movie loses credit because of the irritating first part where crappy CGI (if you want to show off, do it right) and scenes directly aimed at little kids ruin the entire experience. If it was just for a minute or two, it's doable, but this keeps going on well beyond that.
You clearly remember the latter part which indeed is not-suited for kids, I simply do not. While I do think Ep3 is a good movie, it could have been much better if they just, for instance, dropped the entire R2 vs battledroids part... or shortened Obi-Wan & Anakin's race towards Grievous his ship etc.
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the R2D2/SBD sequence did irked me a bit, but it wasn't necessarily kiddie stuff, I remember most of the theatre laughing at such sequences, and most of the theatre were grown men and women... but yeah it was dumb comic relief.
Anakin and Obi Wan's race to Grievous was shortened quite a lot, as it was their jorney back to the cockpit....
Anakin's and Padme scene in the balcony however.... vomit inducing....
Ep III was a much darker and moody movie than any of the PT, it was a step in the right direction... but it still had those two other movies behind it that needed resolution
... but at least it had Jar-Jar saying just "hello" .... once
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I-i agree.
They are certainly suitable for children. I don't get that argument though, I feel like all 6 movies are "kid friendly", despite all having some darker and more mature scenes.
It's more tragic. Whether it is more complicated I don't know. What I am trying to say is that I feel like 1-3 (1 and 2 in particular) were aimed to get as many young teenaged and younger children to view as possible, disregarding wishes older viewers have regarding a movie.
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All were kid friendly, but IV, V, and VI appealed to all audiences, and didn't have any real "Kiddy" characters (Like Jar Jar). And I just thought that the OT was just more well-rounded of stories.
The PT was ruined by: Incredibly fake (And near soap-operaish) love scenes, Jar Jar, Hayden, and GL's apparent loss in ability to create an engaging story.
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You know I was really hoping that the Clone Wars series was going to be more like Batman: The Animated Series from back in the 90's, then the movie came out and I saw that the cartoon was going to be more of a modern 2000's cartoon. But I still had hopes that the series would redeem itself into a more dramatic stance... but I am beginning to loose faith that Star Wars as it used to be will ever return.
Not that the series doesn't look good, it just isn't what I had hoped for...
Lets compare:
Episode III had a PG-13 rating - it was definitely not aimed at children.
Star Wars has always targeted 10-year old boys from the beginning. That the films have always had adults and kids held captive...it's the story.
You want to nitpick about silliness? You can find it right back through ROTJ, to the 1978 holiday TV special, the 1970's Christmas album...shall I go on?
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And I don't care how silly or childish Clone Wars looks - it also looks like enjoyable fun (which I thought the movie was). Lighthearted-ness in SW is not inherently a bad thing.
True. But with the childish battle droids it gets kinda silly... and silly SW never was. Cheesy yes, silly no. Well, Jar Jar and Ewoks went in that direction, but it was still outweighed by the darker stuff. now the silly, lighthearted bit start to outweigh the franchise.
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Well, you may, but I never said that silliness in Star Wars started at a specific point somewhere in the 90s. I said that, to me, ANH and ESB and also, though to a lesser extent, ROTJ contain less silliness aimed at children. Which, one might argue, was just different times, and children back then similarly enjoyed the OT as they do the PT....but I think that there is a difference between OT and PT, however you want to personally weigh that, is self evident. And by no means do I want to say that the PT is utter garbage, I enjoyed quite a lot of it, I just also didn't enjoy large chunks, which, though really just my problem, is not due to some misguided love for the movies of my youth, as some claim, I believe.
I agree that the cartoon looks enjoyable as cartoons go. And obviously they are more aimed at children, which I don't find a bad thing either. It just seems to me that some people are overly protective of the newer Star Wars stuff, even if all one claims, is just an accurate evaluation of the matter. I mean, we both agree that the cartoon looks childish and silly, which, as you rightly stated doesn't need to be a bad thing. Personally I will probably by far prefer the comic form of the Clone Wars...and yes, that is because they are aimed at more mature readers (obviously they are not some Joyce-ish work of fiction...but aimed at older teenagers anyways).