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Episode 8 Title - THE LAST JEDI
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Beniboybling
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just like ben?
also, it's kinda required to push the story forward.

that's an interesting take. rey turns evil and kills luke, maybe? could be.
Ben went into exile for completely different reasons, in fact the opposite reason, to train the next generation of Jedi. Luke went into hiding because he tried and failed to do that, so has obviously developed some angst on the subject.

And Rey doesn't have to be Jedi to be good, she could be something new, like Kylo.


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unless maybe luke is keeping a secret from her that would make her resentful and untrusting, the way ben/yoda did with luke. maybe something relating to her origin.
Like she's the ill begotten spawn of the galaxy's filthiest whore?

But yeah, there's likely some deep seated drama to Rey's background, wouldn't be surprised.


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IMO,

Can't see the Jedi going extinction, despite moments of bleakness, SW is about good/light triumphing over evil/dark.

While I expect Luke to be reluctant in initially training Rey, I think it's a safe bet he'll have a change of heart and train her from some pivotal reason(s). edit; Then again, there's a good reason already, Luke's former apprentice killed Luke's BFF, the guy who ****ed his sister proper

I also see Luke dying as an emotional trigger for Rey and as a means of passing the torch. Old generation to new.
Like I said to Teg, Jedi don't have a monopoly on good, just like Sith don't have a monopoly on evil.

Honestly one key theme of this new trilogy appears to be more than just a passing of the baton, but a transformation. The Galactic Empire has been replaced with the First Order, the Sith have been abandoned for the Knights of Ren, they tried to bring the Republic back, but now its gone, why should the Jedi be exempt?


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Fair enough, but as Billyboy Shakespeare once wrote: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." The First Order might as well be The Empire etc. etc. etc.

IMO, I don't see Disney abandoning the Jedi, it's synonymous/ingrained with Star Wars.


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kinda what robtard said. also rebranding the jedi would be lame imo.


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They did it with the Sith, so I'm not so much seeing this as an obstacle.


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Isn't Your presence is punishment enough....
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They did it with the Sith, so I'm not so much seeing this as an obstacle.
I don't see a problem with something different. Kylo already did one better than Vader in one film. Can't wait to see what's in store for the superior bad guy faction the First Order.


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They did it with the Sith, so I'm not so much seeing this as an obstacle.


sith were not even mentioned in film until TPM. the jedi moniker is far more significant to the saga, and most importantly: merchandising


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Exactly, it's more to do with $$$ than Disney wanting to hold onto nostalgia. I just can't see it happening and would be very surprised if "Jedi" was dumped in/after ep9.


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It's not a question of dumping it, but simply not applying it to Rey.

Just look at the Original Trilogy, Luke didn't become a proper Jedi until the end of the ROTJ, until that point it was distant concept dangled over him by old men in robes from a bygone era. In this new trilogy, Luke already embodies that same role, the concept of Jedi is already deeply woven into the script, but I don't it's necessary for Rey to adopt the role for the concept to be successful.

Again, for the majority of the OT, Luke is not a Jedi, you talk about merchandising, and yet Rey is already widely popular, and her toys sell like hotcakes, but she is not a Jedi. I feel as if we overstate the significance of the title, that's not at all what people identify with, it's a hero wielding a laser sword, fighting the bad guys with the good side of the Force.


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Obviously who knows, unless one of us can see into the future. But I feel Rey will become a Jedi, in both function and name. Kudos to you if you end up being correct.


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Id be very disappointed if they killed of the Jedi. Thankfully, there is almost no chance of that happening. As for Rey, she likely will become a Jedi but I very much doubt she will become one in the next film.


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Oh for ****s sake.


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Id be very disappointed if they killed of the Jedi. Thankfully, there is almost no chance of that happening. As for Rey, she likely will become a Jedi but I very much doubt she will become one in the next film.


Giving the Luke treatment and waiting until the third film to give the Jedi merit badge is what you're saying.


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Obviously who knows, unless one of us can see into the future. But I feel Rey will become a Jedi, in both function and name. Kudos to you if you end up being correct.
It's more than possible, yeah. But I disagree with Ares, there is nothing sacrosanct about the Jedi imo.


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I'd have to side with Ares on that one. Unless maybe there's a third option, like semi-sacrosanct, partial sacrosanctity, mostly sacrosanct or other? wink


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More like we just get down low to the ground to avoid the smell...


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Giving the Luke treatment and waiting until the third film to give the Jedi merit badge is what you're saying.


Maybe it's going to be as ambiguous as ROTJ was. Which is fine.


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Rey isn't a Jedi.
He's talking about Kanan. smile


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