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That's where I've been worried but I think it won't actually happen, despite some of the other media looking that way. Or maybe IX will do it. But here I think we are clear- they'll raise some questions but I don't think anything will undermine light vs dark as good vs evil.
Still, we'll see.
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i dont really enjoy it. if i had no choice i would see it 3d, as was the case with TFA.
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Just got back- quick summary of my initial thoughts, no direct spoilers
Interesting film- ups and downs. My major fears about what they might do with Jedi and the Force were not realised at all- if anything, this film bucks up the classic good vs evil trend. However, I can definitely see a lot of OT fans getting offended that what scraps of backstory we can work out rather diminish the significance of the original films.
Broadly, I am forming the impression that the new films are the inverse in execution to the Prequel films. The PT had some great overarching ideas and setting and even vision, but they often shockingly bundled the way it played out- often poor writing, direction, acting, too much cutting between too many stories, major background ideas that GL apparently forgot actually to try and put across on screen leaving everyone unsure etc.
But looking at TFA and TLJ, what I am feeling are films that are getting all the details right- good acting, good dialogue (Mark Hamill gets what for me is the funniest line in the whole saga so far), some beautiful moments that make their point very well... but the broader plot is kinda borked in places. Just things like who the bad guys are and where they came from and how things have ended up as they are. If you thought TFA was leaving threads for TLJ to clear up then... very few are, and I would be surprised if IX ties up any more, and even if it does that's just damage control at this point. Compared to the elegant simplicity of A New Hope which ESB built on- those days are gone from Star Wars for now (and you can definitely tell that this is not a planned trilogy- Rian Johnson is making it up from scratch). Meanwhile, there's an entire section of the film that looks great, is well played out, but ultimately achieves absolutely nothing- the actual main story doesn't care that any of it happened. That's a bit weird.
It was still Star Wars to me though. Just weirdly plotted Star Wars.
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i thought of you when [SPOILER - highlight to read]: snoke got cut in half and had a good lol. condolences.
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Best Star Wars character. Every piece of dialogue, every action, every movement of his was exquisite. He has the best Star Wars voice to me as well. This forum is about to get Snoke'd.
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oh you're still doing this? not many feats to go by, but with what little he showed, i don't doubt that he was the most powerful sith. though luke's feat was arguably the most powerful force-feat ever.
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I have already issued battlezone challenges, flooded the movie vs. and the Star Wars vs. with Snoke. I have always judged by how these characters stack up to each other not who lifts the biggest rock.
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luke projected himself with such effectiveness that he was able to duel a powerful sith lord from across the galaxy, with sabers clashing. so you can't logocally marginalize his power as "just moving things". especially since that was the extent of snokes demonstrated powers. (granted one of those things he 'moved' across the room was general hux's face, and from many lighyears away)
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Last edited by Bashar Teg on Dec 18th, 2017 at 04:04 PM
^ Yep Luke’s by far the mos powerful force user we’ve seen in the films. Whether that makes him a superior Lightsaber duellist to everyone else is questionable, but his power is not.
Perhaps he chose to develop his powers in more pacifist ways.