BTW, I'm not sure why nobody talks about this, but it seems like Plagueis was the one who created Anakin. As in, he manipulated the midichlorians which resulted in his birth, but unwittingly did not realise that the Force passed on it's own will through those midichlorians in birthing a Chosen One.
Plagueis is basically Anakin's dad.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Obviously by 'anyone' I meant powerful Force-users.
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How can she implement the will, when she is a dark side/corruptive Force avatar?
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Wasn't Anakin willed due to the suffuse of dark side power in the galaxy(not due to midi-chlorian alteration)?
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But you forgot some things:
1. It took months
2. It was not a singular act. It was a collective focus(Plagueis and Sidious)
3. It is not combat applicative.
Therefore, I don't see why would you credit Plagueis alone for the 'feat'?
Given that the most powerful Sith Lords of Bane's lineage united their power to do so. It doesn't surprise me.
Besides that, rituals involve other (dark)forces to aid users, not only users' Force strength alone.
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Last edited by Freedon Nadd on Jan 29th, 2018 at 09:37 AM
...it was a meditation ritual, it didn't have any external contributions aside from Plagueis and Sidious' willpower. Repeating ad nauseam that it took months doesn't change the fact that it's consequences were more dire than anything else up to that point, which includes countless wars, deaths, genocides, extinctions, etc.
You're failing to grasp that Sidious and Plagueis' sheer will was powerful enough to "irrevocably tip" the Force into a shroud of darkness, "not a mere paradigm shift but a tangible alteration felt by all strong in the Force." The Dark Side had never proliferated the Force to such an extreme extent in all of history. The Jedi could barely access their foresight because of it, despite the likes of Yoda being extremely capable seers.
And as for combat, given that telepathy is largely a consequence of 1. Willpower. 2. Force power and 3. Mastery, and given that the the will of the Force tends to be quite a difficult thing to change with just the Force of your mind, I would say the feat reflects extremely positively on Plagueis' telepathic and general power.
But by all means, remain in denial if you must.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
"not a mere paradigm shift but a tangible alteration felt by all strong in the Force."
That's because Luceno's philosophy of the Force is that the dark side shrouding the 'galaxy' is an act of total corruption. To, Luceno, the dark side is not a part of the Force, like in Drew Karpyshyn's dual Force philosophy.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Also if Plagueis was such a threat to the Force. Then the Force wouldn't will into existence a Chosen One, nor kill his experiments, but instead it would kill the Muun.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."