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Sound and Read familiar?The alt-rights-newest-ploy-trolling-false-symbols

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These master baiters represent the so-called alt-right, the meme-fluent arm of American white nationalism. Even as their memes morph into militaristic propaganda, this loosely organized troll army inhabiting extremist corners of social media, 4chan, and Reddit has adopted a new tactic: claiming mundane objects like milk, the peace symbol, and the LGBTQ flag as symbols of white supremacy. Every reappropriation provides another reminder that a troll’s greatest strength lies in weaponizing your anger.

This goes beyond sowing irritation and confusion among “normies” and “snowflakes.” The alt-right is attempting to normalize itself and its ideas. If anybody who drinks milk might be a Nazi, the idea of someone being a Nazi starts looking more pedestrian.

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Conspiracy theorists always see secret symbols and gestures. President Obama and Women’s March organizer Linda Sarsour regularly make the one-finger ISIS salute. Beyoncé’s hand gestures announce her membership in the Illuminati. But the alt-right turned this upside down, then inside out: Rather than accuse other people of secretly communicating an evil agenda, seed the idea that you’re doing it.

It looks like this started in February, when users on 4chan, using an image lifted from a 2013 Nature article about lactose intolerance, seized on the idea that Northern European adults have no trouble with lactose. From there, it was but a short hop to some racist poetry and the idea of making milk a symbol for whiteness. A couple of weeks later, neo-Nazis drank milk while trolling Shia LaBeouf’s anti-Trump performance art piece, He Will Not Divide Us. The media took it from there.


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What % of the population do you think uses 4chan, secondly most of Twitter is liberal.

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What % of the population do you think uses 4chan, secondly most of Twitter is liberal.
Stats please and a peer-reviewed study if you have it.


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Based on r/pol compared to r/Donald and other miscellaneous forum on Reddit. It's clear the ideology lies left of center. It's easy to just look at where most of the activity is between the forums.

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Based on r/pol compared to r/Donald and other miscellaneous forum on Reddit. It's clear the ideology lies left of center. It's easy to just look at where most of the activity is between the forums.
Do you have stats? and that's actually not what the article is about, it's about shifting the Overton window and normalising the abhorrent.


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I don't have stats. But it's clear based on activity, linked news sources, the ideology in r/pol is hard left. And it's millions of users.

Trying to say it isn't hard left is like trying to say I'm far left.

As far as the Nazis, it's like .003% of the population and no one was talking about Nazis and WS a year ago. It's not like this is a recent phenomenon where Nazis are springing up erywhere. You must know that.

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I don't have stats. But it's clear based on activity, linked news sources, the ideology in r/pol is hard left. And it's millions of users.

Trying to say it isn't hard left is like trying to say I'm far left.


That's not what the article is about, it's about shifting the Overton window and normalising the abhorrent using the internet.


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I edited.

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I don't have stats.


That's fine, then you can't post percentages.

It's not what the article is about anyway, it's about shifting the Overton window and normalising the abhorrent through the misappropriation and association of benign symbolism.


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Ok I read it , I understand you hate the Alt Right. They are just as much of a bunch of idiots and Antifa. The alt right regardless of what the media says is a small % of this country . I suspect the same goes for them in England.

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Ok I read it , I understand you hate the Alt Right. They are just as much of a bunch of idiots and Antifa. The alt right regardless of what the media says is a small % of this country . I suspect the same goes for them in England.


Bingo.


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Ok I read it , I understand you hate the Alt Right. They are just as much of a bunch of idiots and Antifa. The alt right regardless of what the media says is a small % of this country . I suspect the same goes for them in England.
You don't have stats or percentages, just an opinion.

Antifa is not mentioned in the article at all.

Percentages are not what the article is about anyway, it's about shifting the Overton window and normalising the abhorrent through the misappropriation and association of benign symbolism.


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Lol...Stevie's obsession with Stats and Percentages is hilarious


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As long as dipshits will keep falling for it, the trolls will keep doing it. Remember how they got some people to believe that the OK symbol is a white supremacist gesture? It's pure lulz to the 4channers and I can't even completely blame them.


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