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Ratcat
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Now, I have the answer to that one here...

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From:The New Atlas of the Universe by Patrick Moore; It has been established that the lunar materials {of the Moon} contain no trace H2O in any form. The Moon has always been waterless and therefore lifeless. The escape velocity is too low for any atmosphere to ne retained.

Jun 27th, 2001 12:38 AM

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queeq
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So no wind. Okay, maybe Armstrong farted.

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Jun 27th, 2001 12:47 AM

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Ushgarak
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No-one cares about the photo inconsistency, I pointed out.

But JW, are you mad? Apollo 13 was a GODSEND for NASA. It single-handedly re-engineered interest in the space programme (that was losing interest) and made NASA into heroes! If I was going to fake ANYTHING it would be Apollo 13!

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:18 AM

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queeq
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Absolutely. Get those ratings up. They didn't have such a thrill until JR was shot.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:21 AM

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The photo inconsistencies DO matter. Why on earth would they fake moon pics if they had been there? It doesn't make sense.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:27 AM

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Maybe the lighting was bad. In a studio you have much more control.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:31 AM

Ushgarak
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Well, if they matter why did no-one comment on them? I went to all the trouble of telling you about them, woe is me etc.

They really are a very funny cock-up! They could have mixed them with rehearshal footage in error, though. Unlikely, but then so is the faked landings!

Jun 27th, 2001 01:38 AM

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The one thing I see wrong with that peice of evidence is this. Even if it was faked, WHY would the cross pass behind the back? Did they show how the thought the image was produced?

Jun 27th, 2001 01:39 AM

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Not really, if you think of the pressure NASA were under to get to the moon. Especially with the Cold War and all.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:40 AM

Raz
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In response to RC, thats easy - Human Error.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:42 AM

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BUt I can't see a way to make the cross go behind the pack unless the pack was added to the scene later? Is this what they implyed.

If they shot on a sound stage would they not have used the cameras with cross hairs?

Jun 27th, 2001 01:45 AM

Raz
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The might have used layers, or something along those lines.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:49 AM

Ushgarak
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Look, like I say, SOME shots are DEFINITELY faked, but beyond that we don't really know much.

Jun 27th, 2001 01:55 AM

Raz
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But why go to the expense of faking photos? What would it achieve?

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:57 AM

Ushgarak
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Well, purely from what I am talking about here, I don't think any of the shots are 'fake', as such, just not from the moon landings.

Jun 27th, 2001 02:00 AM

queeq
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According to Raz it was waving. he just used a still from the video footage.

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Jun 27th, 2001 04:15 AM

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There's also this huge publicity thing going on. Not only do they want the Russians to look bad, they also need the support the US public to cheer them on. So you shoot a couple of scenes in a studio where lighting and staging is optimal. Doesn't matter if they really landed or not.

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Jun 27th, 2001 01:43 PM

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Raz is right on the hurry up part. There was a big race for the US to get on the moon first. They were probably in such a hurry, they cut corners, thus the inconsistencies in the photos.

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queeq
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I think the US beat the Russians to buying the rights to Jules Verne's Journey to the Moon. That's why they could film that and the Russians couldn't.

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Jun 28th, 2001 12:52 AM