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Did the Architect Lie? (Spoilers)
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Korri
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I wouldn't be surprised if KFC sued Warner Bros. for the Architect's look.


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lol that would be great.. on the ten oclock news.. Warner Brothers sued by FKC for popular Architect look... Naw but okay one question. Was neo dead at the end? i mean they show him getting carted away and stuff... he didn't look to be moving so whats the deal? where were they taking his body? Do you think they will hint at the ending in Matrix Online?


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Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.


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And for this month only...ANOTHER YES!


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NO NO NO NO...Neo's body, yes, it appears to be dead, (although it glows...), but his mind is very much alive in the Matrix, APART of the matrix.


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How can you be absolutly sure that his mind is really in the matrix? How do you know that he really isn't dead, that's all folks, goodnight?


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I think the matrix was reloaded. The one has returned to the source (right? I mean he did "die" didn't he) The people's memories are erased. And now the 7th cycle (7!!... significant) of the matrix will begin. This is where Matrix online will pick up I guess.


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I agree with your theory more than any other SP. Probably because that was my inital thought. Programs memories aren't erased though...


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Simple> the one has to return to the Source of his own volition, if not, then the anomaly will be forced back on all the humans and bad things happen...Neo went to deus ex machina, not the source. the matrix was not reloaded, otherwise the Architect would have been happy, but he wasn't...

xeous> i am basing it off two things (that i can rememebr right now) 1) is what the Oracle told Sati, that she is sure they will meet again, not just the Anomaly, but NEO. and 2) is that, Neo's body is not moving, but it IS glowing, and the glowing body looks JUST like the glowing sun in the beautiful sunrise...also, Neo is not there when the Smiths blow up, but everyone else is. What i think is that, Neo's body is still alive, and he is jacked in like he was while in coma, but this time he has no body in the matrix, he has ascended above needing a body (like Jesus). This would explain the glowing body, and the oracles statement...im not TOTALLY sure that this is true, but i believe it to be so.


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I'm definitely gonna have to see this again wink darn


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ok to answer the original question, i'll use an analogy (matrix style) for anyone who knows html, obviously you can change the code without losing all your file references, as long as you dont change the links to the file references... how hard is it to belive the matrix can be basically totoally rewritten without everyone dying... the architect was basically just a prgram trying to get neo to mess everything up... he told him whatever he wanted to to get him to fail. (sorry if that last sentenc doesnt make sense)


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The Matrix was Reloaded and not. It was not reset back to whatever part of the 20th century it’s started the previous 6 times (Smith tells us in M1, that the Matrix runs over the “epitome” of human civilisation, and since we’re in 1998/99 he can only be referring to the 20th century).
It was “repaired” and allowed to continue. The One did return to the Source. The white light that shoots through Neos body and erases the Smith-infection seems to indicate that. And if Deus ex Machina isn’t THE Machine Main-frame itself, I don’t know “who” is.

And Neo chose, willingly, to return to the Source this time, to achieve peace. It’s just not happening “exactly like before.” The buildings were repaired, but not reset to an earlier point in time. If the people who wants to be freed, will be, they’ll no longer create the anomaly.
The Oracle didn’t tell Sati, that she was SURE they’d meet Neo again.
“Do you think we’ll ever see him again.”
“We MAY one day.”
Neo’s body is carried off like some Viking funeral. I don’t think it can be any clearer, that he’s dead. But he’s digital self doesn’t lie “dead” in the crater next to the Oracle.

The humans inside the Matrix weren’t all killed. That wouldn’t be very energy efficient for the machines. The Architect wasn’t trying to get Neo to mess up ANYTHING. That would be quite contrary to the logic of this A. And who’s to say whether the Architect is “happy” or not. He doesn’t come across as a very emotional program. He just never thought of THIS solution before, within his boundaries of perfection.


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NO NO NO NO...Neo's body, yes, it appears to be dead, (although it glows...), but his mind is very much alive in the Matrix, APART of the matrix.


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Why would the Architect give Neo an opportunity to let the Matrix be destroyed if it was their power source? confused


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you obviously havent heard my theory smile ...gnite y'all...


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Wait, what's your theory? Please... roll eyes (sarcastic)


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My theory is that he has no theory.

My theory is that people make their own theories up to kind of force themselves into accepting something, if something doesn't seem right, there is always a theory to make it seem right, even if in fact it was wrong all along.

My theory is i am full of ass blankets and have no idea, i'm just babbling as all good ass blankets do.

My theory is the point of this post is to point out that burly man has left you wondering which was the point of his post and indeed has no theory.

But he most likely does.

Sorry to have wasted your time.

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Thanks for your post Mordecai, it cleared up a lot of things wink

Did they want Neo to choose the door to save Trinity and let the Matrix be destroyed? If this is the reason what was their purpose for doing so?

There has to be a reason for them to give that choice to Neo, but as to what it could be I just don't know.. wacko


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Neo's not dead; he's just "more machine than man now."

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