They wanted Voldy dead... the death spell was deflected back on him, and if I remember correctly, he says he should have died.
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but they are from two differant worlds. a wizard in Harry's world is drasticly differant form a wizard in Gandalf's world. we can't know what would happen if my some miracle they managed to meet each other
Excuse me if this is obvious. Gandalf would win. Perhaps Gandalf doesn't walk around cleaning dishes with magic, but that is because Gandalf's "magic" has a profundity that Voldemort's does not.
Gandalf is a Maiar, and sees at once two planes: the mere physical that we (and Voldemort) inhabit, and the spiritual. In a sense, this is a type of "forseeing", although that is not so. Gandalf can sense that something will happen, but not be sure that it will. It is more a spirituality or godliness than a simple fortunetelling, of the type of Sybill Trelawney.
Yes, Saruman does manage to defeat Gandalf at that point, but in the books (not the way the movie made it seem) it was because both Gandalf and Saruman new who was more powerful.
Saruman was the leader of Gandalf's order, and one of the most powerful of the Maiar. But Gandalf, or Olorin, was the wisest and greatest.
And also, how could Voldemort win when Gandalf, being truly wise, is able to see that death, in truth, is merely a natural extension of life. Voldemort could not win if death, to Gandalf, is not defeat, whereas Gandalf could, since death is to Voldemort the ultimate defeat.
All Voldy would have to do is just say the death spell at the same instant that he apparates behind Gandalf.
__________________ "The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry
Gandalf had a Silmaril? No way. Gandalf never had a silmaril. The only Silmaril in existence during the Second and Third Ages (while Gandalf was in Middle Earth), was Earendil's, and he was flying about in the heavens. But correct, Voldemort's death spell wouldn't work.
Unknown, if you ares till not convinced, take a look at the last point I make in my post:
"And also, how could Voldemort win when Gandalf, being truly wise, is able to see that death, in truth, is merely a natural extension of life. Voldemort could not win if death, to Gandalf, is not defeat, whereas Gandalf could, since death is to Voldemort the ultimate defeat."
I think that is a legitimate point. If Gandalf does not see "death" as a true defeat, how could Voldemort "defeat" him with a death spell.
Just a point, I think there are arguments for both sides (although those for Gandalf winning against Voldemort seem better to me.)
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-The Architect AKA Larry
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Mar 16th, 2004 04:18 PM
lol.
