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yerssot
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a week or three ago I talked with an american overhere and he said something in the lines of that the states can still refuse to accept his law and can still accept gay-marriages

(if I'm wrong here, please correct me)

Feb 24th, 2004 07:13 PM

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Pfft, who cars about religion?

Eh just about 5 billion people on the planet wink

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Pfft, who cars about religion?

This would be a problem for Christian homosexuals- marriage is more than just a civil thing for such people.

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quote:
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Eh just about 5 billion people on the planet

try 3... max stick out tongue

Feb 24th, 2004 07:14 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by yerssot
a week or three ago I talked with an american overhere and he said something in the lines of that the states can still refuse to accept his law and can still accept gay-marriages

(if I'm wrong here, please correct me)

He wants to make a consituational changes, so it would be binding.

Plus he would need around 75% voting FOR this amendment. Not sure how likely that would be.

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Pfft, who cars about religion?

more then you know

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try 3... max

There's over a billion Muslims, somewhere around 2 billion Christians, 1 billion Hindus, half a billion Buddists, and probably about half a billion other, smaller religions.

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Feb 24th, 2004 07:19 PM

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more then you know

Religion is evil. It causes more problems then it solves.

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Feb 24th, 2004 07:21 PM

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First of all I respect everyone's opinions and beliefs even if they differ from mine. I just ask that you respect mine.

I think it's possible for a person to 'love' another person of the same sex. The passions of the heart can be the same between a homosexual couple and a heterosexual couple. That part of it can not and will not be disputed, at least by me.

By my belief and opinion is that it shouldn't be made legal. That doesn't mean I hate the people or think any less of them, I just don't agree with what they do. Personally if two people of the same sex want to parade around as a couple, that's their business. But for them to want the same privileges and stature of a marriage by Law I find to be wrong.

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There's over a billion Muslims, somewhere around 2 billion Christians, 1 billion Hindus, half a billion Buddists, and probably about half a billion other, smaller religions.

and how many ACTIVE?
I in example am still in the christian registers but I am in no way christian

hmm, but we should stay clear of religion

Feb 24th, 2004 07:23 PM

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It can cause alot of problems...Bush takes Christianity too far, to the point where I groan and want to scream. (and me being the religious one) Ugh...I don't want gay ppl to be banned from marrying! It's not right.

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Religion is evil. It causes more problems then it solves.

Not always Raz, remenber there are holy (Missionares) ppl who help less fortunate families in the skid rows, ghettos, slumbs (sorry for using those terms) so Religion does help with certain problems.

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First of all I respect everyone's opinions and beliefs even if they differ from mine. I just ask that you respect mine.

I think it's possible for a person to 'love' another person of the same sex. The passions of the heart can be the same between a homosexual couple and a heterosexual couple. That part of it can not and will not be disputed, at least by me.

By my belief and opinion is that it shouldn't be made legal. That doesn't mean I hate the people or think any less of them, I just don't agree with what they do. Personally if two people of the same sex want to parade around as a couple, that's their business. But for them to want the same privileges and stature of a marriage by Law I find to be wrong.

You ask for respect over something you can control.

But you do not give respect to something people cannot control.

Why do you think it's wrong?

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Religion is evil. It causes more problems then it solves.

it depends on which religion your talking about, what problems does Christianity cause?

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Not always Raz, remenber there are holy (Missionares) ppl who help less fortunate families in the skid rows, ghettos, slumbs (sorry for using those terms) so Religion does help with certain problems.

So they only help people because their religion tells them so. Maybe they need help.

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Not always Raz, remenber there are holy (Missionares) ppl who help less fortunate families in the skid rows, ghettos, slumbs (sorry for using those terms) so Religion does help with certain problems.

yeah...i think they were the same people who started the Crusades and killed thousands and thousands of people in the Name of God.

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it depends on which religion your talking about, what problems does Christianity cause?

Mate, you might want to read up on your history.

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yeah...i think they were the same people who started the Crusades and killed thousands and thousands of people in the Name of God.

And if they weren't fighting over God they would be fighting over money, land, or pretty much anything else.

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Re: Bush calls for gay marriage ban

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Originally posted by ash007
President Bush proposes a constitutional amendment - the first for many years - to prohibit same-sex unions.

Ok guys what do you think i know we had threads about this before but they were closed becuase people started to insult each other lets keep this clean and nice please

I think gay couples should be allowed to marry. When two people love each other they should be able to tie the knot regardless of their gender. I challenge anyone to give me one good, rational reason why this should not be the case. The religious beliefs of the few should not control the law.

Ok thats all

please keep it clean and hopefully the mods will be nice enough not to close it

I agree!

Im not sure why bush is doing that...maybe because majority of Americans are Catolics, so hes trying to win that group over for the next ellections... confused

Marrage between two people any sex should be allowed...i dont understand why it should not be? I dont understand the reason behind it...its not harming anyone...why should it be illegal.
It is also, in my openion moraly right....so...i fail understand the problem.

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atleast money, land and pretty much everything else have material value. God doesn't put a roof over my head or food on my plate....i do

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