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All are earthly? You do realize that Spectre has ultimate power? He could undo all the gods in all the universes save for the presence. Fate goes toe to toe with this and your response is that all his artifacts and or fights are earthly? Is that because you're unfamiliar or somehow impaired?
I think this might have been done before, but if it hasn't then here goes:
Dr Strange: Extensiveness knowledge of the occult, eye of Agamotto, Orb of Agomotto, cloak of levitation, plus his two greatest powers: The Greater Book of the Vishanti (which has some crazy spells, plus allows him to contact the Vishanti Entities), and the dread book of Darkhold (basically the Book of the Vishanti, but this time written by an evil deity with words of flame).
Dr Strange's real power though is his virtually complete knowledge of most 'normal' and several 'abnormal' forms of magic.
Dr Fate: Ok, this dude is stranger than strange. For all intents and purposes he is nothing more than the human shell of a greater god! He wears the Helm (helmet) of Nabu, which is basically host to Nabu, a Lord of Order. The Lords of Order are bacially deities that wage constant war against the 'Old Ones,' beings of great darkness and despair (the dark god Cthulhu is one of the Old Ones that Nabu fights against).
The current Dr Fate can think for himself, but the others that existed before him basically lost all control of themselves once they wore the Helm. They were for all purposes possessed by the Lord of Order. There personalities were just surplanted by Nabu.
Anyways, Fate is given SERIOUS magical abilities by Nabu. For example immortality, invulnerability (while wearing the Helm), super strength,flight (not just levitation like Strange, but actual flight), and so on.
And with the Helm on Dr Fate is basically in possession of ALL magical ability and able to use both earth and other-dimension magics.
Anyways, who would win in a Strange vs Fate fight?
It depends which Dr Fate is fighting!
If it is the current Dr Fate then I would have to give it to Dr Strange. The reason is that although Dr Fate is far stronger (through Nabu Fate is stronger than the Vishanti even) than Strange, he does not have as much knowledge on how to use his powers. Strange on the other hand can use virtually 100% of the powers under his control.
Thus Strange would win this fight due to his superior knowledge (even though Fate has superior power).
If it is any of the other Fates (the 3 Fates before the current one) then Dr Fate would win ......easily. The reason for this is all of those Fates did not have real self-control once they wore the Helm of Nabu. Nabu would basically surplant their persona's and take over their bodies. Basically possession.
Thus Dr Strange would not be fighting Dr Fate .....he would be fighting a Lord of Order, Nabu, in Fate's body.
In this scenario Strange would be outmatched in both magical power (by far) and magical knowledge (by eons since Nabu has been around since the dawn of time).
The only person who can defeat Dr Fate (with Nabu in full control) is Dr StrangeFate (the amalgam creation that melded Dr Strange and Dr Fate into one being).
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Someone needs to bring some serious info in on this one, people keep saying one is stronger than the other on other threads, I'd like to see some actual proof of either being stronger.
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I don't know about who's stronger but I know Dr Fate needs his helemt to use his powers..Strange don't need no helemt...he basically just says crap like " I summon the 45 stars of boo boo wee wee" and crazy sh*t just happens.
Depends on what you're talking about. His artifacts make certain things easier, but they aren't always accessible. The only magical items Strange has with him at all times are the Eye of Agamotto and the Cloak of Levitation. Without them, Strange is still able to manipulate the ambient magical energy of the universe, communicate telepathically with dozens of people, etc.
Magical items are tools, not the source of his power.
This is one helluva battle.
Dr. Fate has more raw power at his disposal.
Dr Strange certainly has far more knowledge than Fate.
Fate recieved his powers from the helmet.
Strange has been studying magic for decades.
This fight could go both ways.
Strange over Fate 6 outta 10.
I would give a slight edge to Dr. Strange due to his vast
knowledge and experience. He might outsmart or come
up with something Fate's never encountered before.
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