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Why did the matrix 2, and 3 suck so bad?
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GangusGrievous
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Re: Re: Re: Why did the matrix 2, and 3 suck so bad?

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Too Complex?
Simple minded twit.. Tommy Boy was more complex then that horse dung put on film Matrix 2, and 3...
Such a fool you are for even trying to say that it was too complex..
I swear you children online now a days... cool You worry me....


obviously from ur dumbwitted reply, u dont know this movie at all. The theology is overused to a point where my nextdoor neighbor who is a religious freakshow of some sort couldnt quite put together all the meaning of the sequals. All i think that matters is that Blue=Raw Life, or the body, Green= the mind, and Light/Gold= Spirit or Soul. It took me a while to figure that out, but how it ended with the colors of blue, green and goldish light, i finally understood it. u saying these films are not complex compared to Tommy Boy is like saying a rubrics cube should only be used by children 5 and below becus it is so easy. thats like saying the crap that comes out of my a$$ is more complex than ur face. hey, if thats the way u think of these films, fine. I like thinking feeces to be more complex than somones face.


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sry, im gonna have to disagree, but when you say the 2nd had the best action scenes. the 2nd had better graphics, but when it came to the burly brawl, and some other action sequences in that movie, it was just too fake looking to me. i really liked the highway scene though, i will admit. but the first movie's action sequencses were better in my opinion because it looked so real, mainly because it was almost all real, but with strings attached and stuff. i say first had best story AND action sequences, 2nd had better graphics (and the highway scene kicked ass) and the 3rd just wasn't as good as the first 2

true about the burly brawl, but i think the highway scene and the others were cooler then the first. but the first matrix was by far the best movie of the three.


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i totally agree there


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Because of Hollywood's greed. They should've just left it to one movie but they got greedy and dragged it out to three movies. They could've easily made it into one long kick ass movie, I definitely didn't see the need for part 2 at all, it was clearly just something done for the sole purpose of having something in between the first and the third film...crap...pure unadulterated crap!

You know to this day it's amazing to me how some people still haven't figured out what the Matrix is really all about. The clues and hints and the overall symbolism used throughout all 3 movies is so obvious. If you can figure out the symbolism used in this movie and what it relates to then you should be able to figure out whether Neo really died or not.

Hints: Neo is referred to as the 'one'. One is an anagram of Neo. Neo's real name Thomas Anderson translates to 'Son of man'. Neo is touted as the messiah or the one who will bring salvation and freedom, the chosen one. Morpheus refers to the prophecy coming true many times throughout this movie, he himself is also on a mission to 'set his people free'.

Other hints: Trinity, Nebuchadnezza, Zion, Logos, father figure, theme of betrayal, redemption, two worlds-one visible and one not...etc..etc.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious to me and most people but some people still have yet to figure it out, believe it or not. huh


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RZA> I was under the impression that they wanted to do a trilogy before the first film was even made. It was on one of the documentaries....

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They didn't suck, IMHO. Reloaded was my least favorite, but it was still a very good movie.


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Okay, good, I'm NOT the only person that thought Reloaded was the weakest of the trilogy.

Like Koz said. Reloaded was my least favorite of the three, but it still was very good. I thought the end to Revo was great...tied up loose ends while still leaving questions out there, which is very much the style of the Matrix trilogy to do. These movies are supposed to make you THINK.


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I dont want to be a prickly prick, but Matrix Reloaded didnt suck.... Revolutions was a letdown.... they should have made a 3 1/2 hour Matrix movie instead of making two two hour ones..... There was too much pointless filler in Revolutions for my taste... but I did enjoy most of the Smith/Neo fight till they starting flying like Superman, that was stupid.... but the rest was f**king awesome.... I love that rain fight. The fight in Reloaded was too silly.... 100's and 100's of Smith's fighting Neo... looks ridicious and well it was ridicious...


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RZA> I was under the impression that they wanted to do a trilogy before the first film was even made. It was on one of the documentaries....


Yeah, what I meant was that when they came up with the initial concept of doing this movie it should've been ok let's make it one long kick ass movie. But they decided to make it a trilogy why because it meant more $$$$ching!....ching!. It was clear that a lot of the stuff in these movies, especially Reloaded was filled with a lot of filler crap that we really didn't need. In contrast, when you compare it to a trilogy like 'LOTR' each of those films while integrated into the overall structure of the story, stands on its own and quite beautifully I might add. Part two was clearly a pointless bridge just done for the sole purpose of dragging it out to 3 films to make more money, and I didn't appreciate that.


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You can't say it was or wasn't meant to be a trilogy because no one outside of the Wachowski bros. know that, and since they never talk about the movies we'll never know. I always heard that it was meant to be a trilogy, but who knows.


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alien All I have to say is that the second and third matrix movies are not as bad as you guys say they are and shoulde't be slandered.


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same here happy You guys just didn't get the story happy


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The first matrix was in my opinion the best movie out of the three. Now that is not to say that teh other two sucked because they didn't but they lost fans because there was something lacking from the other two.

You see the first had a surprise element which once out there could not be recaptured. We had never seen anything like it before in terms of story, kung fu or special effects.

Secondly and most importantly, it posed a question 'what is the matrix?'. Remember the trailer "no one can be told what the matrix is you must see it for yourself". Now this film actually got it the viewing audiance questioning whether their very reality was real or not "what is real? How do you define real? If real is what you can see, touch or taste then real is just electrical signals interpreted by your brain."

You see in the end there is truth in the saying that "it's the question that drives us" in the first film that was 'what is the matrix?'. It was what drove us to see it in the cinema and it was the driving force behind the film. This question was answered in the first film. A new question need to be posed in the following two films there wasn't and that I believe is what turned SOME people of them.


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The best thing about 2 was that Siro from Mortal Kombat Conquest was in it. His names bernard or something like that. I can't believe how awesome he was. Why'd they get rid of him?

3 I own on DVD along with 1. 2 wasn't worth it really. I like the overall action and underlining message of the one's existence. How Neo was merely a part of a whole that required him to choose the fate of both his 'enemy' and his loved ones. That was bitchin. And Agent smith, hugo weaving, was excellent. I felt Reeves did a better job getting beat up in the first matrix though. He's still cool too.

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I don't know why everyone hates the hell out of the sequels. I enjoyed Reloaded thoroughly (with the exception of that retarded sex scene/rave in the cave!).


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I loved the first. My favourite movie ever.

If Reloaded was just a bridge, it did well. Revolutions just....I dunno. It wasn't even a Matrix movie, felt more like an overhyped Star Wars (if there was such a thing).

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Revo was a lot better than Reloaded, IMO....


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alien Whoa Wesyeed really cool which scene is he in and the reason he got killed in mortal kombat conquest because he was a crap fighter.


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well i really liked them all i mean like there r on 2 other movies with sequals i can think of that i thought were as good and thats lotr trilogy and (very corney but ...)Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtles lol i love those movies man plus i grew up with them dey funny as sh*t


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OOOOO AND STAR WARS those were genius and there prolly is never gonna be a bad star wars movie till george lucas dies


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