I'm biased against Padme when comparing her to Leia. It's just because Carrie Fisher was SO MUCH BETTER at acting.
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No, they mean something. But the battle of Endor wasn't as big as the Battle of Geonosis and alot of good Jedi died on Geonosis but Padme didn't. Also, Padme took back thead which is a harder task than the Battle of Endor. Sure Endor's a bigger battle but Padme had like ten people with her while Leia had houndreds of Ewoks.
First, the only reason Padme didn't die, was movie necessity. Other than that, she would've been WTFpwnd by the droids.
And Padme snuck into Theed and the palace, while Leia was in a not so subtle skirmish.
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Yeah, and Leia was actually with her back to a wall, being protected ONLY by Han Solo, while Padme had an army of Jedi to protect her from being killed, not to say the least of Obi-Wan the Soresu master and Anakin the Shien deflection master keeping blaster bolts from her.
Really, Padme is not a military chick, she's a politician. Look at how she holds her gun- she holds a friggin' carbine one handed, elbow locked and straight. She knows nothing of warfare, period.
Okay, but Padme didn't have Jedi with her when she was fighting her way up to Thead. it was her and ten or less men fighting tons of Battle Droids while in Leia's case it was her, Han, Chewie, about ten or so Rebel Scouts and hundreds of Ewok's. She had a wall behind and next to her and Han in front of her. Perfect protection and she still got injured.
Gungans were fightinh their own battle. Naboo fighters were fighting their own battle. Her Jedi bodyguards were fighting Maul. It was just her, Panaka and a few Volunteer Naboo Officers and they fought their way all the way to the Viceroy. Leia and Han had hundreds, of forces and Leia still got injured. And Leia had more covor than Padme. She got shot because she was looking away from her opponents. A stupid strategy.
What did you expect from Leia in that position?
They tried their best to open the freaking door wich was the last resort. She couldn't have gone for all out battle with superman moves, killing all stormtroopers and AT-ST's. It's called being realistic.
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Well, the idea of deciding this on one battle is pretty weak, now that I think of it. Padme is again a senator with no real battle experience. And she's as weak as they get.
Meanwhile, Leia is a rebel fighter on the side and protrays the bounty hunter Bossk and other things.
Don't forget, Obi-Trice....I mean Obi-Wan, and Quiggy, escorted through the streets right to the hanger. Half the battle over there. After that, she encountered battle droids, no tanks, no Droideka, not until she surrendered, while still being escorted by her men and Panaka.
Don't forget that there were two groups making their way through the palace, so the security would be divided to deal with them.
Then there's Leia. She had like what? 10 commandos left? All of them seperated and split up over the terrain. She and Han alone were cornered into the doorway. Stormtroopers galore, 5 AT-ST's vs. One Princess, one Pirate, 10 commandos, and primitives that dealt little damage at first. (despite the numbers)
Then add Leia's many other escapades, her flight through the DS, her fight in Cloud City, and whatever the Hell else she had been through.
All that chalked up to Padme's subtle infiltration (though not "battleistic") and her unrealistic survival at Geonosis.
And you say Padme's better? Or is that just because she's hawter?
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Still, there wern't that many Stormtroopers by them. Why, you don't think Padme could have done what Leia did? Use the comlink to call R2 and then shoot a few stromies.
Where it took many, many shots to kill one Stormtrooper.
They wern't really fighting till the second half and then they were just running away. Padme was running in and re-capturing her city, Leia and co were running away from their captured city.
She is better. She's hotter too but they're both hot and this has nothing to do with it.
I regret not taking a leaf out of Nai's book and explaining my points further now.
Oh well.
I meant half, figuritively. They were past the open roads, and away from the tanks.
I don't know what the novelization about TPM says, but it sure didn't look like too many droids.
I'll admit I hold no true appreciation for Leia's battle at Endor. The fact that the two of them were stuffed in an exposed corner with enemies everywhere, and their allies able to do little against the stormtrooper legion, is what I find impressive.
It's true, they were running from dumbass troops letting them go. Oversight on my part.
Leia, Chewie, and Lando fought their way out of Cloud City, under Vader's nose, and without his consent that he had in ANH. If I recall correctly, Padme herself ran from a hallway of droids. She skipped several floors of them in fact, and if it wasn't for her decoy (whose character I love more than the real Padme) then the Viceroy would've won. Essentially.
And I've noticed some biased opinions surrounding Padme just because she's hotter than Leia.
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More droids there than there were Stormtroopers on Endor by the Bunker.
Yeah, but notice how after the battle starts 99.9% of the Stormtroopers run into the woods to fight the Ewoks where only a few stick around the bunker and only one or two opo out of the woods to fire at han and Leia every now and then.
If I remember correctly, he was fighting Luke and wasn't much bothered about them at the time. But if you want to play this way I'll say Padme broke her way right into her own Throne Room right under Maul's nose.
If Lando had wanted to break and window and jump out he'd have have been more than welcome to. And whether she would have won or not without her decoy is unknown.
More droids yeah. But they were scattered over a very large palace, not concentrated in one area.
Your exaggerating quite a bit.
Cloud City was under Imperial Lockdown, Leia's party escaped, not attacked. And attacking is hard to do, but escaping can be even more difficult.
And the hell? Where's Lando gonna conjure the equipment while running for his life?
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