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Leia versus Padme
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Janus Marius
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More droids there than there were Stormtroopers on Endor by the Bunker.

Possibly, but the battle ground on Endor was smaller. An entire Imperial battalion was there, with about twenty or thirty Imps nearby the base in shooting range. And if you look at the door with no cover there would be... Han and Leia. Oh, and the two droids.


Yeah, but notice how after the battle starts 99.9% of the Stormtroopers run into the woods to fight the Ewoks where only a few stick around the bunker and only one or two opo out of the woods to fire at han and Leia every now and then.


This isn't exactly true. Han Solo kills an assload of Imp troops because they're still in the area. The fact that Leia was shot at and hit proves that they were in danger. How many shots did Padme dodge? And again, she is no fighter, period. Really, neither of these battles are great evidence. But considering that Padme was a child senator who participated in two battles as a minor figure and just happened to survive doesn't mean Padme > Leia. This is just one big ridiculous back and forth here.


If I remember correctly, he was fighting Luke and wasn't much bothered about them at the time. But if you want to play this way I'll say Padme broke her way right into her own Throne Room right under Maul's nose.


Pointless.


If Lando had wanted to break and window and jump out he'd have have been more than welcome to. And whether she would have won or not without her decoy is unknown.


Right.

So let's go back to square one since this isn't going anywhere.

Chalk up Padme's professional soldierly experience.

Then Leia's.

Then chalk up Padme's professionalism in combat.

Then Leia's.

Finally, chalk up the difficulty of their total battle experiences.

And make an unbiased answer.

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More droids yeah. But they were scattered over a very large palace, not concentrated in one area.

Yes, and what was in a concentrated area?
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Cloud City was under Imperial Lockdown, Leia's party escaped, not attacked. And attacking is hard to do, but escaping can be even more difficult.

Escaping can't be that hard, nearly everyone escaped Cloud City, even the regular civilians. Can the same be said for Naboo?
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Where's Lando gonna conjure the equipment while running for his life?

Wern't they on the first floor?
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but the battle ground on Endor was smaller.

What the f**k?
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And if you look at the door with no cover there would be... Han and Leia. Oh, and the two droids.

There was covor. Maybe not as much as inside Theed.
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This isn't exactly true. Han Solo kills an assload of Imp troops because they're still in the area.

And the rest run into the woods.
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The fact that Leia was shot at and hit proves that they were in danger.

Obi-Wan didn't get hit while fighting Jango. So he wasn't in danger? Leia didn't get his on Cloud City? Wasn't she in danger. Padme didn't get hit. Are you saying she wasn't in danger?
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she is no fighter, period.

For someone who's not a fighter period she sure seems to be good at fighting. She has far better accuracy than Leia and fights as well as her head of security. Not a fighter my ass.
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But considering that Padme was a child senator who participated in two battles as a minor figure and just happened to survive doesn't mean Padme > Leia.

Minor? Sorry, but she was a major figure in the Battle of Theed. And yes, she wasn't yet an adult in TPM. Point being?
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Pointless.

Then we'll agree that neither Padme nor Leia escaped uder a Sith Lord's nose since each Sith Lord was pre-occupied at the time.
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Chalk up Padme's professional soldierly experience.

Okay. She was trained by Panaka.
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Then Leia's.

Not sure who trained her, if anybody.
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Then chalk up Padme's professionalism in combat.

Good strategist, very good shot, instrumental in taking back Naboo.
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Then Leia's.

It took what? Ten shots for her to hit one stromtrooper when Luke and Leia "took a wrong turn". Killed a few stormies on Cloud City. Got shot on Endor because she turned her back to her enemies.
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Finally, chalk up the difficulty of their total battle experiences.

Okay.
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And make an unbiased answer.

Padme.

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Janus Marius
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Wow. Never thought I'd see Padme bias before.

Go watch AOTC again... watch her hold that carbine with her elbow locked, one handed and looking every bit the nonwarrior.

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Originally posted by darthsith19
Anything except thinking 'hmm, there's some bad men shooting at me so I think I'll turn around and look behind me!'
Wow, read it again. "It's called being realistic"

She probably could've been shot while looking but their last resort was to get the door open.
You judge a whole fight about one chick being cornered. Why is that?

But are you honestly convinced that Padme is the better 'warrior'? Because I haven't seen much evidence and never really got the idea that she was such a hardcore chick.


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She isn't.


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Never thought I'd see Padme bias before.

I am not biased towards Padme! Just because my opinions differs from yours!
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Go watch AOTC again... watch her hold that carbine with her elbow locked, one handed and looking every bit the nonwarrior.

Who the **** cares how she holds her gun? The point is she hits her tragets.
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She probably could've been shot while looking but their last resort was to get the door open.

If she had been looking at her enemy she could have shot hkm before he shot her.
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Because I haven't seen much evidence and never really got the idea that she was such a hardcore chick.

Who cares how hardcore she is? The point is she can shoot better than Leia.

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Leia hits her targets too.

Anyway, who cares how well they shoot, this is a battle with swords, remember?

BTW, you're biased towards Padme big grin


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Originally posted by darthsith19
I am not biased towards Padme! Just because my opinions differs from yours!

Who the **** cares how she holds her gun? The point is she hits her tragets.

If she had been looking at her enemy she could have shot hkm before he shot her.

Who cares how hardcore she is? The point is she can shoot better than Leia.
-Not biased? Explain why you take this so personal then.

-Who the hell cares about this thread or teh tragets?

-Yeah, sure. She knew exactly who was going to be the one to have a direct hit.

-Padme can apperantly shoot better? Please elaborate about why you are so convinced. Because replying like crazy with spelling errors indicate that you are getting angry or something.


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In the case you havent noticed, Leia shoots pretty accurately with her eyes closed. Every thime she presses the trigger, she closes here eyes. =O

So force is with Leia.

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Leia hits her targets too.

Yeah but she misses far more often.
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Anyway, who cares how well they shoot, this is a battle with swords, remember?

Yeah, but then it'd be unknown. I mean Padme'd win if it was a fight with guns.
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BTW, you're biased towards Padme big grin

You ad better be kidding.
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-Not biased? Explain why you take this so personal then.

I'm just defending my POV.
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-Who the hell cares about this thread or teh tragets?

Obviously you cause your posting here.
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-Yeah, sure. She knew exactly who was going to be the one to have a direct hit.

I'm not gonna debate this. Fact: It's a betetr strategy to look at your enemy when your fighting.
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-Padme can apperantly shoot better?

Definately.
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Please elaborate about why you are so convinced.

Cause I watched the movies.
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Because replying like crazy with spelling errors

Oh, and you spell perfectly.
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Leia shoots pretty accurately with her eyes closed. Every thime she presses the trigger, she closes here eyes.

What the f**k?

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No eyeballing please.

(please log in to view the image) no expression
That looks like an accurate shot?

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No eyeballing please.

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That looks like an accurate shot?

If I remember correctly she shot what? Ten times in that scene and hit one Stormtrooper? LOL!

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LOLLOLOLOL!!
But I'll go along with 'the hots for Padme' rant..
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-Who the hell cares about this thread or teh tragets?
Obviously you cause your posting here
Yeah, I shouldn't have interfered with your thread highjack..
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-Yeah, sure. She knew exactly who was going to be the one to have a direct hit.
I'm not gonna debate this. Fact: It's a betetr strategy to look at your enemy when your fighting.
Fact is also that she wasn't fighting the particular guy who got lucky. So I don't know why you base your whole conclusions on that irrelevant scene..
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-Padme can apperantly shoot better?
Definately.
Wow.. That, my son, was the most convincing message evah.
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Please elaborate about why you are so convinced.
Cause I watched the movies.
Sorry, that's not elaborating. Try again. What the f**k?
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Because replying like crazy with spelling errors
Oh, and you spell perfectly.
Yes, so?
But why do you ignore the question to why you took this so personal?

But all the nonsense aside.. Your claim still doesn't hold much sense that a regular girl like Padme would be superior to someone who actually lived in constant threat and was strong in the force.
You need to try harder to go against basic logic.


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Fact is also that she wasn't fighting the particular guy who got lucky.

But she should have been, then she wouldn't have gotten hit.
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Wow.. That, my son, was the most convincing message evah.

Sorry, don't feel like repeating my what I said in previous posts.
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Sorry, that's not elaborating. Try again. ?

See above.
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But why do you ignore the question to why you took this so personal?

Already answered that, too.
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Your claim still doesn't hold much sense that a regular girl like Padme would be superior to someone who actually lived in constant threat and was strong in the force.

Padme a regular girl? LOL! And who's to sday leia's stronger in the Force than Padme? And regardless Luke was extremely strong in the Force but got his ass beat by some crazed Tusken Raider. Force potential matters little if your untrained.

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Janus Marius
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Uh... Leia is FORCE SENSITIVE, darthsith. Padme isn't.

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Hell, Leia becomes a Jedi Master, one of the first of the NJO after Luke.


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One of the first Jedi Masters of the new order? I thought she didn't even become a Jedi till the Dark Nest series.

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Really? I was pretty sure she had a lightsaber and training way before that.


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Really? I was pretty sure she had a lightsaber and training way before that.


Yeah, but so far as I know, she never really completed any training and wasn't even considered a Knight in NJO.


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Oh! Then my bad. She's still got training, though. stick out tongue


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