SSJ4 Goku stands no chance against Superman. Hes not close to being physically strong or Durable as Supes; one punch is going to have Goku really hurt and his heat vision will melt the flesh off of ssj4 Goku with ease.
In Action Comics #696, Superman survived passage through a cosmic wormhole.
In JLA:Created Equal, book 2, Superman survived passage through a blackhole.
Man of Steel #30: Standing on Earth's surface, Superman punched Lobo into orbit with one punch.
In JLA/Starbreaker, the "destructive force of a nova" couldn't destroy Supes.
In JLA #41, Superman absorbed the energy of the Mageddon Warhead, a device capable, at the minimum, vaporizing half a galaxy.
In Aventures of Superman #477, Superman survived the destruction of a sun eater, at ground zero.
In Adventures of Superman #581, Superman allowed Adversary, a powerful magical foe, to hit him as hard as he could, without retaliation. Supes was halfway across the planet from Metropolis to China, and he was fine.
In Superman #181, Superman and Bizarro swhiched bodys; Superman (in Bizarros body) punched Bizarro (in Supes body) completely through the Earth and out the other end. Superman was slammed in through the ground in Metropolis and came out two panels later in China. He was showed ripping straight through the Earths crust, mantle, and core, and coming out on the other side of the planet. Both of them was still ready to fight after that.
Action Comics #775: Alone in combat, Superman faced down and authoritatively defeated the Elite. Elite tore one of Neptune's moons in half, and, at least according to John Henry Iron's (a technological genius) readings, tossed around enough power to "ignite a star".
Action comics Annual #7: Alone, Superman defeated alien Armadas twice, each capable of destroying a planet.
Superman is way more powerful than any DBZ/GT characters, they're no where close to Supes or people he fights league. Halve a city or push a building is nothing compared to what Supes done.
For every example you have shown i can find an instance where Superman gets laided out by MUCH weaker,It isnt really that hard these days either considering how much Sups gets jobbed especially in JLA where Batman has to be the invincible popular one.Anywas the Adversary thing is total BS.A magical opponent laying into Superman should should TOTALLY screw him up.He IS supposed to be weak against magical assult and thats a product of some pretty incompetint writing
So anyways little kid Goku started outy DB with strength in the lower echalon of Superherodom even shrugged off bullets between the eyes,Trains with Roshi and can beat one of the worlds largest armies on his own.King Piccalo comes along and picks apart the worlds defense blowing up cities and performing feats on par with alot of comic book villians and basically takes over the world before Goku kils him.Flash forward several years and Piccalo jr and Grown Goku wreak a whole island with their fight and all this ends up with a sub-500 pl even before DBZ
I cant serious expect to belive Gokus power literally jumps by Hundreds of thousands of times from a point where he was already performing lower-mid level superhuman feats and he could be placed in roughly the same class he started at
Hell if Spiderman even jumped even 10X in his strength[Like when goku would use KaiokenX10] he wold be up there with Thor Sups and the like.Why are equivelent jmps written off as nothing at all here?
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All Goku has to do is teleport Superman to the edge of the universe and teleport back without him. Even if Superman could travel 20 times the speed of light it would take him a few thousand years to get back to earth.
Supes taking alot of magical attacks lately, just because magic can slow him down doesn't mean he will go down in an instant towrds it. Supes proven plenty of times that he capable of taking magical attacks.
And the DBZ/GT characters isn't as strong as Supes or Thor, I've already seen their high end feats; Supes and Thor is much stronger. Goku doesn't use Kaioken any more because it takes up alot of energy (I think thats why he stop using it after the fight with Vegeta, he did use on Freeza and Pikon though), I don't think that technique whould be very good in a fight anyways though.
Though I haven't seen DBZ in a few years I do remember them being super powerful. Like for instance Piccolo easily destroyed the moon when Gohan transformed and Piccolo's strength has easily gone ten fold what it was since then. Then compare Piccolo to Goku and you see that Goku is more powerful as he is able to go super saiyan and all that. I really can't see superman winning.
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