let em fry.the death penalty is justice, nothing more. If innocent people end up on death row. this does not discredit the death penalty. Only the justice system.
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obviously not all of the evidence. It is still ordinary people that sentence people to death. I cannot see how anyone can blame the death penalty as being barbaric or imorale. If anything is barbaric or inmorale, it would be the people sentencing them to death. It is however, merely people sentencing what they feel is justice.
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Nope, it will tell you that out of the first world countries, with a democratic and fair system of government, its only Japan and America that still allow it.
Have a look see...
Death Penalty Outlawed
Andorra
Angola
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Bermuda
Bulgaria
Cambodia
Canada
Cape Verde
Colombia
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominican Republic
East Timor
Ecuador
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Guinea-Bissau
Haiti
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kiribati
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Micronesia
Moldova
Monaco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Norway
Palau
Panama
Paraguay
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
São Tomé and Príncipe
Serbia and Montenegro
Seychelles
Slovak Republic
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkmenistan
Tuvalu
Ukraine
United Kingdom
Uruguay
Vanuatu
Vatican City State
Venezuela
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Death Penalty Permitted
Afghanistan
Algeria
Antigua and Barbuda
Armenia
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Benin
Botswana
Burundi
Cameroon
Chad
China (People's Republic)
Comoros
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Cuba
Dominica
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Ghana
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Malawi
Malaysia
Mauritania
Mongolia
Morocco
Myanmar
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Palestinian Authority
Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Somalia
Sudan
Swaziland
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
United States of America
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe
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I dont care about the death penalty. I just believe it is justified. I could care less about people who think it is morally disgusting. I understand that,i used to think the same. However, i cannot stomach extremists on the subject. Why would i go live in a tribe if i loved the death penalty? Isnt America just one big tribe? It functions the same way a tribe does, but on a larger scale.
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Totally agree, if they did make prison less good to prisoners and pure torture, then I would be against death penalty, but the prisons just do not work that way.
its mostly al the civilized and european countries that realize that the death penalty dousnt help them and too old fashioned.// remeber, if any1s seen the micheal moore documentary, "bowling for Columbinne" all european countries have about 30 murders a year... u.s.a. has roughly 12.000 a year! I bet starting a more civilized government, get bush outa the white house, better gun laws, and less violencial influwence.. would probably decrease the need for death penalty and hopefully ban em @ some po
int.
u prob dusagree, but i had to give my opinion//
Last edited by great_cakes on Sep 11th, 2004 at 01:19 PM
in some way true ... i think there more scared of getting sued by the familys that think the prisoner is innocent ... tho to me being locked up in a cell for 20 something hours a day isnt a good enough punishment for them ... they till get some of the privilages we get on the outside (television ,sports , education )
Yeah and if we become more "civilized" we have half our rights taken away. Besides murder in america is so high because of all the different styles of people, we are like the mis-fits
"It is still ordinary people that sentence people to death. I cannot see how anyone can blame the death penalty as being barbaric or imorale."
So by that rationale, if a random yahoo on the street thinks you're doing something worthy of death, it's perfectly fine?
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-bulllllshite.
I'm sorry but that's just silly. That's exactly WHY it's wrong. Who are they to have the ultimate official say of what I do wrong? To them, drinking under certain ages is wrong, taking drugs is wrong. They are ordinary people therefore they can be wrong. Until a method of absolute concrete undeniability is made up then they should not have something as drastic as the Death Penalty.
Extreamist? Please! Extreamisnts are the ones who cannot see further tha whats in front of them and supporting life for a life!
Why live in Tribes?? Because in tribes life for a life is justified, not in a civilised society.
Because in 354BC people in Babylon had a law that had eye for an eye system! I think we live many years passed 354BC, do you?
I dont know about you and America, but if America to you is one big tribe, the good luck. Europe is not a big group of tribes however, but a group of civilised countries.
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Great Cakes has a point.
If we look at the number of murders in Europe and then in the US, and take into account the populations of each continent – the US still has a lot more murders than Europe.
Why?
The usual argument I hear from pro-death penalty Americans is the wish to be rid of – for good – some insane mass-murderers (correct me if I am wrong), and make sure murderers don’t escape and do “it” again.
Does anyone have the actual NUMBERS for will-full murders in the US? I’m not talking accidents etc, but real murder??
Phinney6> “Yeah and if we become more "civilized" we have half our rights taken away.”
Huh? Care to explain that? And do you mean Americans and paranoid and xenophobic??
Tex> Love you sig! How many child-murdering rapists are there in the US a year?
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Who are they to ultimate say what you do is wrong? They are the LAW ENFORCERS. Yes, their job is to maintain order in society. Since society CANNOT act by itself in a orderly and progessive way, they require a system of laws, and a system of laws are chosen by society. Society also chooses who should apply the law. They also choose who should punish the offenders. So, if you're going to be asking who appointed these ppl to enforce the law....then ask your own society, since is obvious they appointed them to enforce the law.
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How many child-murdering rapists are there in the US a year?
