grreat fight...the battle between the two underdog apprentice's...both vader wannabe's who takes it?? before i wouldve said count because of his power with the force but now IMO maul would own count dooku...that fool has got some crazyass moves with that dualsaber of his and he's practiced and i think (if im not mistaken) mastered the art of juyo which combines the most unpredictable moves for ur opponent which only him and mace windu and two other jedi have mastered and combining that with his agility and martial arts skils with the dual saber i think darth maul would tear up count dooku what yal think?
Count Dooku is far superior, not only with his great knowledge in the ways of the Force, but also his skill with a lightsaber. He is arguably the greatest swordsman of his time (though I believe he's below only Yoda and Sidious...).
I think Maul is being overrated here. He was a great duelist and was able to take on a Jedi Master and his padawan at once and should have won. Had he lived and had more years under his belt he would have been an tour de force to deal with but he didn't. So Maul as is can't fight against the Count.
Dooku would win, but you're comparing someone of around 80 years training (under Yoda AND Sidious) and experience to someone with around 20+. If Maul had survived and lived through to Episode's 2 and 3, he'd of been even more powerful with another 10 years training under Sidious and it would be a much closer fight.
Maul would have become more powerful than Dooku but he died before he reached his peak. His skill with a saber was great but nothing that special and he was quite average skilled in terms of force powers. He was only about 25 when he died and would probably become as powerful as Sidious. Dooku on the other hand was extremely strong with the force and very skilled with a saber. He was the strongest in his time apart from Windu, Yoda and Sidious.
Well, Count Dooku managed to defeat ROTS Obi-Wan - who is superior to TPM Obi-Wan - without much difficulty. Bearing that in mind, Maul had a hard time with TPM Obi-Wan, though the padawan was undeniably weaker than he was.
All in all, this goes to the Count. Now I'd say that Maul fairs a sporting chance and could last a few minutes, being quicker and stronger than Dooku himself. But the Count's experience and Force powers would be enough to give him the edge.
It would probably only take half a minute. I don't think Maul would be able to block his lightning. Dooku would definitely own Maul at the level he was when he died but Maul at his peak would take Dooku.
Obi-Wan did it with perpetual ease. Granted, it requires quick reflexes - but few people this side of Coleman Trebor don't lack it. Maul is stronger still than ROTS Obi-Wan and is still quicker. He'd be able to do it, I'm afraid.
Maul had trouble dealing with two Jedi and Dooku toyed with two Jedi and still had time to duel Yoda. It's clear that Maul wouldn't defeat ATOC Obi-Wan since he had trouble with him when he was a Padawan and Dooku pwned him without trying even in ROTS when Obi-Wan was a Jedi Master.
First of all I said probably, which is true as Maul was not that strong in the force in TPM and he is definitely not better than Obi Won in ROTS. Plus it is likely he was never trained by Sidious on how to do so as he was a sith lord and it wasn't as if a jedi was going to use it on him.
And secondly when i said, "It's not that simple. The lightning moves incredibly fast and is extremely hard to block (it requires a lot of strength to block)," it was in reply to when you said that it is quite simple to block lightning.
How can you be so sure that Maul would be better than Dooku at his prime? From what we know, Dooku could have been better than him at that age. Dooku has performed better force power (he seems to have a much higher potential than Maul will ever have) and better swordsman ship (has a better lightsaber style).
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I agree with kamikz. If Dooku could handle AOTC Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Yoda at almost the same time, he could crush Maul. Maul would put up a good fight, but after a minute he'll get himself sliced apart.
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who takes it?? before i wouldve said count because of his power with the force but now IMO maul would own count dooku...that fool has got some crazyass moves with that dualsaber of his and he's practiced and i think (if im not mistaken) mastered the art of juyo which combines the most unpredictable moves for ur opponent which only him and mace windu and two other jedi have mastered and combining that with his agility and martial arts skils with the dual saber i think darth maul would tear up count dooku 
what yal think?
Dec 22nd, 2005 03:46 AM
