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GalacticStorm
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See. We might actually be getting somewhere now. This is how it should be. Why get defensive and take it personally when someone disagrees with your viewpoints? If everyone agreed and said nothing for fear of upsetting anyone then we'd never find anything out. Plus this forum would be boring as hell anyway.

If id just said nope thats not right and left it at that then you might have had a point, but i disagreed and gave legitimate reasons why, thereby sparking off a debate on the issue. You cant take offence to a person doing that. Its what happens on forums, its an integral part of them.


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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sandman is in continuity. Anyone remember the issue where Dream met Martian Manhunter?

I liked it.
Yep, its been pointed out multiple times, as well as them having a multitude of other DC characters.. in fact, 2 posts above yours is me quoting someone about these from a page back.

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Vertigo book; Sandman has shown Martian Manhunter, Dr. Destiny, The Demon Etirgan, Batman, Mr Miracle...
Vertigo book; Books of Magic had Timothy Hunter being shown the DC universe through and through by Phantom Stranger, Constantine, Mr E, and Dr Occult.


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Nah thats cool. I dont see any reason at this point in time to doubt that its part of continuity then. Theres one thing thats puzzling me. How is Spectre still operational if Yahweh is gone or do you think these events are happening at different points in time. i.e IC is before the recent events in Lucifer. Theres noo way Yahweh handing everything over to Elaine isnt going to affect Spectre.


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that is 1 of the many points i've thought about as well, in Vergito Hellblazer at the same time everyone left hell we see The First of the Fallen in hell with a bunch of demons and everyone talking to him, this points to Lucifer not being in DC/Vertigo Continuity. Lucifer as a whole book has been done and written for many many years way before IC. If a Vertigo based comic such as Hellblazer isn't following Lucifer's story then that brings in doubt it is really in DC/Vertigo Continuity. Lucifer could still be a stand alone like Preacher or be in a class all in its own something like Preacher but still in DC/Vergito Continuity...


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Ther Hate when ppl act like they have something to prove. no not good GS.


Don't you just hate when people criticise, over their own insecurities ?

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I'm pretty sure that the First of the Fallen isn't supposed to be Lucifer; he was in Hell before Lucifer fell, hense the "First."


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Ahhhh thanks for the reminder!! But then does that then translate into Lucifer being continuity. Is Lucifer based on the character who appeared in Sandman or is it actually the same one? Hmmmm


You know he is !!!!!!!!!!! ?

G.S. you're going about this all the wrong way ....

I agree with you, but not because Vertigo's present Lucifer is a parody of Gaiman's, but because the too have nothing to do with each other in continuity !!!!!!!!!!

How do we know that the DCU and the vertigo universe are written during the same time scale ? For all we know the events in Lucifer's universe are happening 5 billion years into the future of the D.C. universe ....

The point is there is no continuity between the two, and therefore the events happening in vertigo have no baring on the DCU and vice versa !!!!!!!!!!!!

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You know he is !!!!!!!!!!! ?

G.S. you're going about this all the wrong way ....

I agree with you, but not because Vertigo's present Lucifer is a parody of Gaiman's, but because the too have nothing to do with each other in continuity !!!!!!!!!!

How do we know that the DCU and the vertigo universe are written during the same time scale ? For all we know the events in Lucifer's universe are happening 5 billion years into the future of the D.C. universe ....

The point is there is no continuity between the two, and therefore the events happening in vertigo have no baring on the DCU and vice versa !!!!!!!!!!!!


I appologise for not reading the last page .... my bad !!!!!!!!

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gregory i know "The First" isn't Lucifer, thats not what I'm talking about. anyway something else very interesting that nobody else has noticed in Lucifer yet, in Lucifer Exodus (issues 42-49 somewhere) it shows him talking about the war in heaven thats going to take place, we all know that war happened as we see here lately. the point is what he named it, he named it Ragnarok which many people believe the Old Gods before New Genesis and Apokolips was from. hmmmm if anyone reads up on it you would prob be suprised by how much the Lucifer comic book has taken from the real world Norse religion.


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When I posted al those other dimentions before, I meant that yahwehs creation was composed of all of those listed INCLUDING the precrisis multiverse and the postcrisis universe.

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Vertigo book; Sandman has shown Martian Manhunter, Dr. Destiny, The Demon Etirgan, Batman, Mr Miracle...
Vertigo book; Books of Magic had Timothy Hunter being shown the DC universe through and through by Phantom Stranger, Constantine, Mr E, and Dr Occult.
Dont forget superman featured in the sandman as well (and im not sure about batman, but i think he was there). Also, zatanna featured heavily in one of the books of magic, as well as dr occult, phanton stranger, constantine and others who are all part of mainstream DC.
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Nah thats cool. I dont see any reason at this point in time to doubt that its part of continuity then. Theres one thing thats puzzling me. How is Spectre still operational if Yahweh is gone or do you think these events are happening at different points in time. i.e IC is before the recent events in Lucifer. Theres noo way Yahweh handing everything over to Elaine isnt going to affect Spectre.

I wouldn't mind seing elaine taking yahweh's place, but she messed up her own creation, and i think it would be a bit naive to think she could do a better job in the DCU.
About spectre's power, I have thought about that as well, and i came up with 4 theories:
1. Spectre is being powered by the prescence or the source who is 'filling in' for yahweh.
2. Spectre is being powered by elaine or lucifer or some other godlike being.
3. Spectre still has the power of the green glow energy from when he was merged with hal jordan (the parallax/hal/spectre trio had its power before they were split, and neither hal nor parallax had such innate power afterwards)
4. Spectre is being retconned again to revert back to his demonic origin, and has his own power once again in his original form (where he was origininally either a demon or an angel or something like that, and was turned into the spectre for not taking to battle during the first war in heaven).
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I'm pretty sure that the First of the Fallen isn't supposed to be Lucifer; he was in Hell before Lucifer fell, hense the "First."
The first of the fallen isnt lucifer. he is more like the opposite of the prescence (the dark evil aspect of the prescence)

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Originally posted by Juntai
Vertigo book; Sandman has shown Martian Manhunter, Dr. Destiny, The Demon Etirgan, Batman, Mr Miracle...
Vertigo book; Books of Magic had Timothy Hunter being shown the DC universe through and through by Phantom Stranger, Constantine, Mr E, and Dr Occult.


The Sandman (The same one BTW) showed up in the last edition of J.S.A Morpheus/Dream took Hector Hall's soul into the dream realm !

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Do you think her mixing creations has anything to do with the theorized end of Wildstorm U, and possible addition of some of its better characters into mainstream DCU?


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the wildstorm universe will (IMO) just be retconned to be a part of the new post-IC multiverse (yahweh's creation).

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I don't think so or at least I hope not. That'd be pretty lame.


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