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Well, as much as you feel differently, I think this is going to be a hard one to fight. Let's say perhaps maybe you have something, it'd be pretty hard to fight the mass flock of Beatles fans all over the world to agree with you. It's a fight I don't think you can win, even if you're correct.

It's like those who think Wilt Chamberlain is better than MJ...though the world believes MJ to be the greatest basketball player ever. It's just not going to happen. erm

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I don't have to do anything.

Are they massively influential? Yes. Are they the most innovative and influential band ever? No, not to me they aren't. Many agree. It doesn't matter if more agree with you and Whirly than me and whoever, neither of us can factually prove it, but I don't have to agree.

They're just opinions, nothing there is fact. I'm not denying their talent or their influence, I'm denying them of a title that they don't deserve.

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Back to opinions and ours on this differ. Please provide some evidence just once to support your spurious asserions AC.


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Unfortunately, fewer bands are regarded as more innovative also. wink

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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Thats it smile



Back to your Britney fetish wink


Could you, then? If you believe thousands of opinions override one, then millions must kill it, right? You believe you could argue The Beatles over Britney?

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laughing out loud Anyone who told you to be yourself couldn't have given you worse advice, perhaps AC's funniest line ever. the pompousity is incredible.

I use Secondary sources because I know what to search for to support my arguments smile If clues were shoes, you'd go barefoot AC trust me.


You don't use secondary sources Whirly. You find sites and then claim you agree.

Hence why you're so easy to deal with.

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Originally posted by BobbyD
Well, as much as you feel differently, I think this is going to be a hard one to fight. Let's say perhaps maybe you have something, it'd be pretty hard to fight the mass flock of Beatles fans all over the world to agree with you. It's a fight I don't think you can win, even if you're correct.


Point proven.

You are arguing that I am losing a battle because there's more Beatles fans. So? There could be a billion claiming that they're the best at everything ever, doesn't make it any more true.

Millions voted for Bush because they believed him to be the man for the job. Case closed. Numbers mean nothing and if that's your only argument, I suggest you bail out.

I don't care if "fewer bands" are as regarded for innovation. The Beatles didn't innovate that much, they were just the first to do things, which isn't ACTUAL innovation. Innovation is primarily taking something that exists and drastically altering it or changing it. The Beatles didn't do that as much as people claim.

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Could you, then? If you believe thousands of opinions override one, then millions must kill it, right? You believe you could argue The Beatles over Britney?


If you wish to argue for Britney go ahead smile

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You don't use secondary sources Whirly. You find sites and then claim you agree.

Hence why you're so easy to deal with.

-AC


No I found sites that agree with me I stated my opinion first smile I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up your ass mate.


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If you wish to argue for Britney go ahead smile


Stop chickening out, weasel boy.

Could you realistically argue against a million Britney Spears fans, if they said she was better in many ways, than The Beatles? Yes or no? Simple question.

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No I found sites that agree with me I stated my opinion first smile I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up your ass mate.


Of course you found sites that agree with you, we're talking about The Beatles. It's not hard, they're the classic name to drop. Anyone in search of musical credibility decides to namecheck them.

I just quoted your massive copy and paste job, you decided to skip it. Either reply or don't. Your call.

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AC, I think your disdain? for the Beatles may be clouding your normally intelligent capacity to see clearly. Post 2 threads, and let's see the results of what people HERE say. Thread #1: Who is the most innovative band of all time, and #2) Who is the most influential band of all time. Make them singular response answers. We are not asking for seconds on these, or an order/rank. We won't take ties either for #1.

I could be wrong, but I'd bet you'd find the Beatles winning both threads even IF you are correct. I don't know what else to tell you, man.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Stop chickening out, weasel boy.


You are the Britney fan it's only fair you get to argue her smile Weasel boy laughing out loud no no expression

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Of course you found sites that agree with you, we're talking about The Beatles. It's not hard, they're the classic name to drop, Anyone in search of musical credibility decides to namecheck them.


Nope I like them and know they are credible, If your comment was twice as smart as it is, it would be absolutely stupid AC.

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I just quoted your massive copy and paste job, you decided to skip it. Either reply or don't. Your call.

-AC


You really didn't you stated opinion without support, I'm not arguing against something where you offer nothing but AC says "blah, blah' blah" laughing out loud

I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.


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AC, I think your disdain? for the Beatles may be clouding your normally intelligent capacity to see clearly. Post 2 threads, and let's see the results of what people HERE say. Thread #1: Who is the most innovative band of all time, and #2) Who is the most influential band of all time. Make them singular response answers. We are not asking for seconds on these, or an order/rank. We won't take ties either for #1.

I could be wrong, but I'd bet you'd find the Beatles winning both threads even IF you are correct. I don't know what else to tell you, man.


Disdain? I love The Beatles, don't assume. This is where you become a confused guy. You think that because I'm not rating them over every band, I don't like them. As if that's the Beatles requirement.

Exactly, even if I am correct, The Beatles would likely win because they're The Beatles. That's why they're rated so high, name over quality. Which is wrong.

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Disdain? I love The Beatles, don't assume. This is where you become a confused guy. You think that because I'm not rating them over every band, I don't like them. As if that's the Beatles requirement.

Exactly, even if I am correct, The Beatles would likely win because they're The Beatles. That's why they're rated so high, name over quality. Which is wrong.

-AC


Give it up man, your posts obviously show some intelligence, but you are just looking very ignorant in this thread. How much do these guys have to own you?

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You are the Britney fan it's only fair you get to argue her smile Weasel boy laughing out loud no no expression


Gonna answer my question or not?

Here:

Could you realistically argue against a million Britney Spears fans, if they said she was better in many ways, than The Beatles? Yes or no?

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Nope I like them and know they are credible, If your comment was twice as smart as it is, it would be absolutely stupid AC


Why are they credible? Because they're published and on the net? Everyone and their mothers are saying that Arctic Monkeys are great, are they? I mean magazines are saying it, many people are saying it, must be true right?

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You really didn't you stated opinion without support, I'm not arguing against something where you offer nothing but AC says "blah, blah' blah" laughing out loud


I countered each and every one of the points from whoever's essay it was you pasted. You chose to reply with two lines of sarcasm rather than countering, because we know you have nothing beyond Google.

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Give it up man, your posts obviously show some intelligence, but you are just looking very ignorant in this thread. How much do these guys have to own you?


He's not getting owned, please don't say that. Nobody owns anyone else matey.


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Give it up man, your posts obviously show some intelligence, but you are just looking very ignorant in this thread. How much do these guys have to own you?


Whirly has a Captain Kirk sig...you two should get along smile.

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Whirly has a Captain Kirk sig...you two should get along smile.

-AC


I said that ealier, it's a cool name. I just wish he would stop with the AC is getting owned bit.


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Well, it woudn't be the first time someone said I was confused. laughing out loud

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I countered each and every one of the points from whoever's essay it was you pasted. You chose to reply with two lines of sarcasm rather than countering, because we know you have nothing beyond Google.

-AC


Really AC you didn't sad you used opinion sad I think you are confused that opinion and fact are not the same.


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OK he is not getting owned, he just looks stupid! I like your Kirk sig man, it owns.

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Agreed, Whirley....CK, the music forums is a place where people love to speak passionately about their music, and that is what is respected most here...its subjectivity.

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Agreed, Whirley....CK, the music forums is a place where people love to speak passionately about their music, and that is what is respected most here...its subjectivity.


Yup AC is passionate but not subjective bless him.


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