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queeq
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The Hitler-parralel fits Palpy quite well. The Jews weren't the major issue of his political success. Hitler thrived due to the bad economic situation and the fact that Germany was made bankrupt in the aftermath of WWI. They DID have a a separist-like opposition in the form of the Allied Forces of WWI. England, France and the US basically crippled Germany and the socialists of Germany conceded with the proposed crippling of the former agressor. That did major damage to self image of Germany and the Depression didn't help. Hitler's nationalistic approach was a boost for the German way of life. He made them believe that choosing for Germany and the German way of life would lead to prosperity and security, out of the grasp of the weakened position in the world. In other words, he made Germans feel good about themselves and then abused the democratic system to get elected with a majority of votes. That was manipulated by having the SA keeping socialists out of the voting offices... but there are similarities to Palpy. And also shows that democracy CAN be used to gain power and dictatorship.


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democracy is simply a system of popular votes....we found that out in the Middle East. Hezbollah and Hamas can win votes as easily as the moderates can.


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Indeed... and democracy can be manipulated. The Bush/Gore elections proved that once again.


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And democracy can be manipulated. The Bush/Gore elections proved that once more.


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Originally posted by JediRobin23
The emperor would be the one to stop or prevent it, not be the instigator.
Exactly. The "Emperor" in this scenario would stop a nuclear war. If this Emperor is a bad guy to his people though, I'd still pick him, since I prefer any oppression he can dish-out to global decimation.


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Until you ARE in the oppression and realise the nuclear threat was a lie or an exaggeration at least...


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Until you ARE in the oppression and realise the nuclear threat was a lie or an exaggeration at least...
Well then I go Hulk on his ass.


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Chancellor Hitler = Supreme Chancellor Palpatine

Third Reich (German Empire) Fuhrer = Emperor of Galactic Empire

Reducing the Reichstag powers = Appointment of Regional Governors, dissolving of the Senate

SS (stormtroopers), Reich army = Clones, Imperial Stormtroopers

German helmet = Vader's helmet

Hitler's Enabling Act = US Patriotic Act = Order 66, Republic reorganised

German concentration camps, chemical weapons = US Abu Ghraib, Guantanamao Bay, Nuclear weapons = Death Star

"It is amazing the similar mistakes we make in Iraq and in Vietnam" - George Lucas


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Well then I go Hulk on his ass.


Bush beware! Happy Dance


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German helmet = Vader's helmet


Actually, Vader's helmet was based on the Japanese feudal samurai helmets...


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The best is by far the Mandalorian helmet...followed closely by scout troopers.


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On the homepage, this thread looked like "Alliance's Rise To Power" because Alliance was the last to post


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Alliance IS trying to rise to power. stick out tongue


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Why should people feel that they should trust theie government to protect them? Even if a government doesn't tell you anything, (Secret stuff) that its ok? wouldn't you want to know the full truth in order to make up your own dam mind? Its like, what is un-said seems to be accepted.

Palpatine works in such similar ways

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Men in Black had a wonderful line I won't soon forget: "A person is smart, people are dumb, stupid animals, and you know that."

Tell the populace the country's secrets and plans and the U.S. would have dissolved into 50 different countries long ago. Rebellions, uprisings, secessions. The average Joe DOES NOT need to know everything.


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thats not only immature, but a retarded attitude

people, no matter how dumb there are, still have a say. The Majority, also have a say. WTF you talking?

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Originally posted by JediRobin23
thats not only immature, but a retarded attitude

people, no matter how dumb there are, still have a say. The Majority, also have a say. WTF you talking?
A friend of mine once came up with a theory that the government is holding back the use of the electric car in order to become rich from the oil companies. While I'd disagree with such secrecy, if a government as unpopular as the Bush administration say, was found out to be doing such a thing, I can't help but see a violent revolution emerging.

The average populace should not be privy to government information that could be dangerous when leaked out. Oh sure, noone's gonna make the info. on how to make a nuclear warhead open to the public, and why not? Because it's dangerous obviously. If people honestly believe that everything the gov't does or knows is, or should be so open to the public, they're taking quite a naive route. Nonetheless, the country, no matter the leadership of the current cabinet, remains united. I have a right to voice my opinion and vote for who I want, but that does not mean I'm entitled to know everything going on, especially when it doesn't invlove me.

Every time something gets exsposed or revealed, a public outcry and/or backlash emerges. One little secret is slipped and suddenly it's the story of the year. Imagine if everything was revealed.


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REVOLUTION!!!!!


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IVE BEEN EXPOSED!


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FINALLY!!!


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