As everybody said, depends on the Spider Sense vs Teleportation. I give Kurt 6/10 if he does the teleporting really quick. His win would take a long time though IMO compared to Peter with a one punch KO.
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Flaw #1: Morlun's a man-and-a-half compared to NC'er. And Pete went for hours (days?) against him.
#2: NC'er can continuously teleport all he wants. Spidey's reactions are better than anyone in Marvel (save speedsters like QS) and his spider-sense will let him know where each teleport will be coming from
#3: A stationary teleport won't allow NC'er to "tag" spider-man. He'll have to remain in one position long enough to thrust his sword into Spidey...long enough for Pete to dodge and hit NC'er since his reactions are >>>> NC'er reactions.
#4: Punches won't work at all. Spidey will laugh them away. Pete's punches, on the other hand, will kill NC'er if he lands a good punch.
And the Cap comment? First, Cap's not in this fight, is he? Second, the lone fight you're referring to recently was when Pete's heart wasn't anywhere near in it...he said as much himself. But you probably didn't actually read the fight, since you're so busy calling anyone who defends Spidey a fanboy (with improper grammar, no less). And it also ignores their base stats (which favor Spidey without exception in speed/strength/reactions/durability/etc.) and past feats and showings (also in Spidey's favor). CW is a Cap propoganda machine, and Spidey was on the wrong side at the time. Of course they'll make Cap seem sweet, but they had to use a healthy dose of PIS to get there.
And Black Cat?! Please. I won't even dignify that with a response.
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I was cool when you were keeping it respectful, but a couple of your comments are beginning to border on insulting, and your responses don't actually address my points....they merely respond with incorrect generalizations and name-calling.
its a lot of people on this site that dont much about nightcrawler. He can hit you like five times in a sec, thats how fast he teleports. By the way spideman aint knocking no nightcrawler out with one punch. I also said that kurt have 2 swords so thats all it would take is one stab and the fight is over, which he would get quit easily.Im not saying that spiderman isnt good but i just think that nightcrawler is to much for him. I have seen nightcrawler dodge quicksilver among other fast people and did it with ease. If nightcrawler goes all out in this fight like he ALWAYS does than spiderman is as good as dead.
...again refusing to actually refute my points. Not quite what we call a debate, bud. It's more like talking to yourself, and anyone who agrees with you.
I can respond to counter-points, but I'm done here since you're saying the same things you were saying a page ago.
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And since masterbruce took a shot at my boy Metalmanx, and of course exagerrated a few things in doing so....
No intelligent fan claims that Spidey "dodges" bullets once they've been fired (though that's happened once or twice too ). He's simply somewhere else than where it's being fired because of the warning system. Take away spider-sense, and yes he gets riddled with bullets constantly. But that's not quite the case.
Spidey gets hit. I can say it.
But 1 punch from Spidey (aided by a directional spider-sense) would end the fight. Just 1. Then, if it doesn't knock out Kurt, he'd be disoriented for a second and Spidey could end the fight.
Could Kurt get lucky and win a few? Sure. But not too often.
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I'd like some proof to these arguments you work so hard to "disclaim" Bruce...
You basically said you were a Wolverine fanboy, and all Wolverine supporters have an ingrown hatred for Spiderman.
Back on topic though, this battle has CIS IN it, so what will Kurt do if he touches Spiderman, drop him to swing away? Or hit him with Enhanced level blows?
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... Teleporting is an action. Therfore, while it may be cool, useful, and fanboy-engaging, it will take time. It's not instantaneous. Beyond that, since it is an action, it will take up time.
If Kurt was standing right beside his opponent, and his opponent wasnt moving, he couldnt hit him five times in a second.
Teleporting will not make his punches faster.
Apparently you've confused teleporting with superspeed (evidently that is not the sole example this thread)
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...it's upsetting when people try to call you out but don't bother to read what you've said.
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Anyway...
Anyone with billions of appearences will have great and horrible showings. Spidey's no exception. But I've read probably 80% of the comics Pete's ever appeared in (i.e. that's a freaking lot of SM showings). Him dodging a ridiculous amount of stuff (lasers, machine gun fire, super villians, etc.) happens much (much) more often than Pete getting the snot beaten out of him, or even hit once or twice.
Take it how you will...my (quoted) opinion up there stands though.
nightcrawler bamps on top of spidey. his early warning system tells him where nightcrawler is coming from... most times he'll probably get out the way... most times...
thats why i get majority to spidey.
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Why does Spiderman get hit? Good question.
Spiderman is a super-hero.
The vast majority of times you see Spiderman in action,
he's fighting bad guys WHILE trying to protect civilians.
Most times you see him getting hit is because of this.
He frequently takes shots and engages the enemy close
in order to draw them AWAY from bystanders.
Once their distanced from people, THAT'S when Spidey will
start pouring it on and win.
Of course if Spiderman is FIGHTING with someone it's possible
for him to get hit. If he's concentrating on strictly dodging....
....then he's virtually untouchable. NO character in Marvel has
Spiderman's level of agility. NO ONE. This has been established
from day one back in 1963.
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Nov 9th, 2006 10:42 PM
). He's simply somewhere else than where it's being fired because of the warning system. Take away spider-sense, and yes he gets riddled with bullets constantly. But that's not quite the case.
