what the hell is the point then? i mean, i know alot of superman story lines have that undrlying subtle reference as a christ like figure, but when superman is stronger than God, why even bother anymore?
help me out here partner...what is pre crises superman?
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Pre-crisis Superman is the version of Superman that existed before 1986, (which is when "Crisis On Infinite Earths" and the overall depowerment of the DCU occurred)...
Back in this era, a sneeze from Superman was able to destroy a Solar System.
Superman could pull a Galaxy's worth of planets like nothing.
He could move stars and planets with his breath.
Could travel trillions of miles in seconds, just messing around.
Could move across an entire Universe instantly.
He could even time travel under his own power, on a whim.
If you're interested in seeing these feats (and MUCH more), a pre-crisis Kryptonian respect thread can be found here
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RUNNER{faster than SPEED itself, hes at his destination before he even starts to go there}
GENIS-VELL/CURRENT PHOTON{this dude has become just bloody insane, he might even beat runner in speed}
SILVER SURFER{was until somewhat recently, about the fastest, persistant, non teleporting/warping non abstract character. extreeeeemely fast either way}
ZOOM{faster than fastest flash}
FLASH{lightspeed, faster than lightspeed in speed force realm}
BLACK ADAM{cant say, pretty darn fast either way}
THANOS{faster than light travel due to technology/chair}
ADAM WARLOCK{dunno what to consider his speed, mystical dimension warping or what. still fast enough to journey through universes and back in no time at all}
SUPERMAN{sub light speed, almost light speed, energy superman can easily go beyond lightspeed. and well precrisis was so fast he could travel back in time or other universes but hes GONE now}
Nope, it was actually shown in a recent mini cap is slower. Someone had hired a tracker to track superman and marvel. They were only able to keep up with marvel.
Zoom technically doesn't have superspeed, however someone with enough speed can still keep up with him.
As to the topic. Pre Crisis Superman is actually pretty much just as fast as the runner. Able to cross the universe in an instant. Hell he even went so fast he almost crossed into god's throne room(or whatever) and the spectre had to stop him.
He also did stuff like search the entire universe for a rare element all in a matter of minutes. He is pretty much one of the fastest beings in fiction if not the fastest.
Current Superman can move and react at the speed of light and in space he can travel much faster than that.
Also remember didnt some of the Runners best feats come when he had the time gem? I still think without it he could run across the universe in a few seconds, so he is the only being who rivals PC Supes.
captian marvel and martian manhunter are faster then supes, and they can get up to speed quicker then he can to.
HEHE theses threads are funny. there are many toons stronger or on par with supes and faster then supes just no one mentions them due to superman favoritism.