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snoopdogg
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Could you take a photo?
I'll try. But I don't guarantee good quality because of the flash.


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If I had a scanner that worked I'd scan his new handbook bio. It says he has peak human strength. It also says that the reason he was able to hang with Spiderman was because Spidey always held back when taking on non superpowred beings for fear of taking a human life and the fact that Kingpin used his skills and agility also.


Which would be a retcon. Peak humans can't break steel bars, or do any number of things that classic KP did. Like I said, two different versions of him. Cureent and Classic. Acting like they are both the same is just Marvel sweeping the changes under the rug. Current is peak human. Classic was superhuman.


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Also, saying that classic KP was peak human strength originally but used his agility to match Spidey is retarded. Spidey's agility was his main asset, and we're meant to believe that he was physically overpowered because KP was quicker than him? That's the worst justification for a power-down I've ever heard. He was faster than someone with precognition, but not stronger even though he was clearly shown to be stronger than multiple peak humans and some superhumans. What a joke.


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Which would be a retcon. Peak humans can't break steel bars, or do any number of things that classic KP did
EXACLY! besides even if a human did have this kinda strenght their bones would break first (unless classic KP has bones made of different substance but was still suppose to be only human? lol)


btw Captain America is also suppose to have peak human strength and yet classic KP beats the shit outa him. which means classic KP had to be a mutant & superstrenght was one of his powers

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EXACLY! besides even if a human did have this kinda strenght their bones would break first (unless classic KP has bones made of different substance but was still suppose to be only human? lol)


btw Captain America is also suppose to have peak human strength and yet classic KP beats the shit outa him. which means classic KP had to be a mutant & superstrenght was one of his powers


Man, these are COMICS.

Captain America had dozens of feats of superhuman strength, yet it was officially stated that he couldn't lift more than 800 pounds (Marvel peak human's max limit).

Pre-Turbo Sabretooth officially could lift no more than 900 pounds (slight superhuman strength). And you know what? He KO'd Rogue with Miss Marvel's powers with a few blows.

Jigsaw w/o exoskeleton effortlessly broke Spider-Man's arm like a toothpick.

Black Panther pushed a huge boulder off the cliff.

Daredevil held his entire body weight with just two fingers.


Kingpin's not the only human in comics who has insane feats.


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Yeah, out-strengthing Cap doesn't mean he's a mutant or some such. It means he was stronger than Cap during his "classic" era. It doesn't really need a further explanation than that.

Also, lulz at the bio. So a literal grapple where he was overpowering Spider-Man was due to his skill and "unusual quickness." Like I said, awful excuse for a retcon. They should just leave it be, because they dig themselves a hole with explanations like that which don't hold up to any kind of scrutinty.


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EXACLY! besides even if a human did have this kinda strenght their bones would break first (unless classic KP has bones made of different substance but was still suppose to be only human? lol)


btw Captain America is also suppose to have peak human strength and yet classic KP beats the shit outa him. which means classic KP had to be a mutant & superstrenght was one of his powers


And that is exactly why personally I've never liked classic KP. At least Cap has the SSS to offer some justification as to how he can pull off the crazy stuff he does. What's clasic KP's justification?

"My body is mostly muscle."

Still, very good thread.

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Anyone have the scans where he's in prison and he kills those 4 guys in the shower?

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With KP it's about eras. Technically, all of his feats are in continuity, but he's currently written FAR below the power levels that he used to have. There's no clear distinction between current KP and "classic" KP, but it happened some time in the late 80's or early 90's, when writers stopped writing him as a brawler and made him more of a schemer.
Has anybody beaten his @ss since then?


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Spider Woman V1 46


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Spider Woman surprised by The Kingpins physical strength as moves a beam that must weigh a ton just as easy as she does.




He leaves quite an impression on her.


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Anyone have a guess as to how much KingPin's empire was worth financially at it's best? I'd probably say low billions or high millions.
high billions.

Peak kingpin had a stake in every criminal enterprise in the world and controlled several goverments including that of the US from the shadows.

Peak Kingpin was the most influential non superpowered human in the world.

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he was worth billions at standard level. he made a % of every single dollar made in crime on the east cost, not to mention the money he made in his many legal ventures. he also had senators, judges, generals, etc in the palm of his hand


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Digi,

Any chance you can restore the Classic fight you said Wilson would "roll" in? Pretty sure that's the fight from the storyline "Mission: Crush the Kingpin!" which I read years ago. A great showing of Kingpin's physical strength and ability to dominate even Spider-man, as you said, but all your links are now x-ed out vacancies.

If you can restore that to working order, great, if not, I understand.

Thank you for your time.

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Has anybody beaten his @ss since then?

Spider-Man and Daredevil both nearly beat him to death, Echo shot him in the head, blinding him until he had brain surgery, his own lieutenants, lead by Sammy Silke and Richard Fisk stabbed him into a coma, Bullseye shot him point black in the knee with a shotgun, Lady Bullseye gave him a severe beating and cut and impaled him several times with a katana.


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Wow. For the love of god, could you pretty please post some scans of DD almost beating him to death?

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