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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
So your sayin that all Shields hellicarrier has em, yet when Exodus attack one of Shields heli-carrier, i see none of its high ranking officer warez it, that incl. Mariah Hill acting director and they had ample time to acquire it..
Another reason why i think most shields heli-carrier, does not carry em is becaused they have there own psi-defense personal that blocks psi-attacks..
Shield agents does not wear them on special ops operation against psi-opponents like Cable.
If they had such equipment why none of em warez it
Wolverine has been given them by Shield before when he has been sent out on missions and that Dane has built his own means yes Shield does have them and I can get it erm

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
Your wrong on that, her binary gen code still there.. What this means is that her mental link to her Binary form still intact, and there should be psionic traces of her original powersource.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...l_Repowered.jpg
temporary powered by the collective..
You are using the Collective the thing that killed all of Alpha flight as proof that you can do it confused

Even though it never actually mentions in your scan her turning into Binary erm


quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
It just need someone or something w/ the right tools to rebuild the link..
The Wisdom (Akin to the watchers library) of the original symbiote mass w/ psionic energy as its tool should very well be capable of it..

The symbiote is not trying to redo the whole process of Binary's incarnation but only to fixed the broken mental link to her powersource.
The point is it is Broken and you are going off the idea that somehow, somewhere your symbiote has run across something similar to this even though it comes from a different Universe. Tell me how you can guarantee that it even has a remote idea of what it is doing beyond saying it has vast knowledge you can not. Heck show me where Backlash has even close to the power to do what you want and I'll show you a banned character. erm

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
The symbiotes ones merged a race w/ matter/energy/time manipulation, tp and tk abilities through there vast psionic potential.
This beings exp and skills where absorb and transfered in the symbiotes.. The skills/exp absorbed from this beings alone w/ gen-factor (Psionic energy) Backlash powers should be enough to fixed that severed link.

That i agree w/ you..

The symbiotes does posses this knowledge and the tools to accomplish such event..

Knowledge
- Wisdom given by the master races (Symbiotes maker), + gained from absorbing host.. Incl. a race w/ vast psionic abilities and Danes own exp..
- Eons of learning/exp through host absorbtion..

Tools
- Backlash gen-factor which is vast raw psionic energy..
Yadda Yadda Yadaa my guy has great knowledge so of course he has knowledge of how to do this. You can not show he knows how to do this you are simply putting it on blind faith that it does and blind faith isn't enough.

You are also placing blind faith that Backlash's power will be enough even though once again you can not.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
His was already aware that someone is in that room; "lights turned on"
Yellow Jacket blast is not exactly at speeding bullets velocity..

The whips movement can be redirected unlike FL's straight line energy blast, its difficult to cut energy that moves at any direction w/ but a thought..
He still didn't know where the attack was coming from and last time I checked I do know you are here and it isn't like there are too many places for you sneak up on me and I can still just as easily get the drop on you seeing as you can not mind rape me.

And if you are moving your whips away from my swords what is protecting.
quote: (post)
Originally posted by Roldz
Actually I've still yet to see the sword cutting something akin to a mist or air.. The tornado feat was more of a energy absorbtion/manipulation..
And say it with me what are Tornadoes made up off... erm


OK people this is what this match comes down to, Advantages. I have them he doesn't.

Flight: Either I have it or we both do. So either I do have an advantage or it is a push

Strength: He has yet to actually show if the Symbiote really multiplies the person's strength in which I am inclined to say no. I'll put it this way if someone put the Venom Symbiote on Colossus would he all of sudden be boosted to abnormal levels. No it would probably do nothing for Colossus' strength. So unless you are trying to say you could stick this on Superman and all of sudden he is moving thousands of planets at once then no it doesn't do what you are saying.

Reaction: I have already shown my guy blocking numerous oncoming rockets at once. He has easily deflect energy bolts and even managed to guard himself against Firelord's attack. I don't think his guy is going to be running circles around me.

Weapons: Do I even need to go into this one. Sword of Light and Ebony Blade>>>>then his weapons

Durability: Once again a very lopsided edge to me. Why do think he is adamant about trying to convince you I can not hurt him in mist form because he knows that his normal body his like butter beneath my swords. He on the other hand by his own strategy has to hit me about five times.



Battle recap
So I am the only one with real advantages in this match.

-Now I will break down his attack strategy:
-He is going to find me
-Blind me without blinding himself
-Absorb my Cannonball shield
-Attack me with some Plasma Blade that he may not even have.
-Hope his weapon actually gets through both my my swords and my -Black Knight Armor and then he hopes his Blade will cut Colossus through all of that and kill me in one blow and before my shield can re-energize itself. While my horse doesn't kick him from behind.

My Plan: Get close and slash him to death short and simple

You see his entire plan in fact the only way he could think of beating me is by getting in close range combat against me. He even has to do this as Binary. Even as Binary that isn't where he want to be. He plays into my strengths.


He is relying on getting the drop which he hasn't proved he can. Blinding me without blinding himself. Get his whips close enough to my shield to drain it. Then get through my armor and blades with a weapon he needs Binary to make and he doesn't even have Binary and hope he does it before my shield kick back up and hope that one attack is enough to do it.


All I need is one shot with my weapons and he is all to happy to get close enough for me to use them and I have already shown that either in mist form or out my blades will hurt him.


So who are you going to take the guy whose entire match has been nothing but a lot of what ifs and hopeful luck or the guy that can definitely win this in one blow?

I think you would put your money on the guy who can win in one blow and that is me. Roldz just has to have way to many things go his way to even get the shot at beating me.

Thus Vote Newjak.


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Regarding the soul stealing abilities:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/71...absorbtiqg1.jpg

- it looks like it needed blood for this to work, and requires the death of an opponent..
* You'd only be stabbing air, You've yet to prove that the ebony blade affects my mist form..

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/99...teenergyko6.jpg
"My sword only diffusing some of its energy, my arm well give out way before the vortex does" His diffusing the Kinetic energy the vortex produce to make the tornado, slowing its spin; its an absorbsion feat..
It by no means is similar to Backlash mist form..

*7th senses also afford me to read all your movements, then counter attacks according to your stats..

So no the Ebony blade wouldnt work on my mist form..

- Dane can also steals and destroys ones souls..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/..._19_rougher.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=Dane3.jpg
Here he kills the souls that powers and is connected to the soulbender..
His also able to protect his soul from being stolen by this same entity (another reason why soul sucking wont work), symbiotes healing abilities combines that of Backlash healing gen-factor.. Itd be like stabbing Wolverine w/ a normal sword (instant healing)

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=Danes1.jpg
Here it shows he can manipulate and affect the soul.. "Slam a barrier between there souls and the virus..
He was also able to absorb and meld there consciousness to his, and learn skillz through that..

Here's whats going to happen when NJ character decides to pull that move..

- Arcknight mist/dodge (read via 7th senses), MI blastfield is probably down at this instant (Blade need touch the body)

At this point my char, would have a few option for a beat down;

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...t=halfmist1.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...=wconstruct.jpg
Mist form and attack you via plasma lance..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...=colossus24.jpg
heres what happened to Collussos, after being slash by a shiar plasma lance..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/...osbioenergy.jpg
leaking w/ bio-kinetic energy

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...ManIII24p09.jpg
Bio-kinetic energy farther absorbed through Warbirds absorbing ability draining all of it in..

Proctor, Dane from another reality.. You know how realities differ from each other.. Some chars eithers is stronger or weaker..


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Originally posted by Roldz
6 of 8

Regarding the soul stealing abilities:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/71...absorbtiqg1.jpg

- it looks like it needed blood for this to work, and requires the death of an opponent..
* You'd only be stabbing air, You've yet to prove that the ebony blade affects my mist form..

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/99...teenergyko6.jpg
"My sword only diffusing some of its energy, my arm well give out way before the vortex does" His diffusing the Kinetic energy the vortex produce to make the tornado, slowing its spin; its an absorbsion feat..
It by no means is similar to Backlash mist form..

*7th senses also afford me to read all your movements, then counter attacks according to your stats..

So no the Ebony blade wouldnt work on my mist form..

- Dane can also steals and destroys ones souls..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/..._19_rougher.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=Dane3.jpg
Here he kills the souls that powers and is connected to the soulbender..
His also able to protect his soul from being stolen by this same entity (another reason why soul sucking wont work), symbiotes healing abilities combines that of Backlash healing gen-factor.. Itd be like stabbing Wolverine w/ a normal sword (instant healing)

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...rent=Danes1.jpg
Here it shows he can manipulate and affect the soul.. "Slam a barrier between there souls and the virus..
He was also able to absorb and meld there consciousness to his, and learn skillz through that..

Here's whats going to happen when NJ character decides to pull that move..

- Arcknight mist/dodge (read via 7th senses), MI blastfield is probably down at this instant (Blade need touch the body)

At this point my char, would have a few option for a beat down;

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...t=halfmist1.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...=wconstruct.jpg
Mist form and attack you via plasma lance..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/...=colossus24.jpg
heres what happened to Collussos, after being slash by a shiar plasma lance..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/...osbioenergy.jpg
leaking w/ bio-kinetic energy

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...ManIII24p09.jpg
Bio-kinetic energy farther absorbed through Warbirds absorbing ability draining all of it in..

Proctor, Dane from another reality.. You know how realities differ from each other.. Some chars eithers is stronger or weaker..


Newjak post 6 of 8
You do realize I'm not stealing your soul until after you are dead and just for laughs you do realize my blade is magic I would love for you to show me a scan of him resisting magic because if you can not then your Soul Is Mine. stick out tongue

The rest of this I have already covered.

Mist is form is no go. I've shown him cutting energy, dissipating it, cutting air. Your guy's mist is not protecting you

And you are relaying a lot on this 7th sense where you have yet to prove it effect in combat. I have never seen it used like a Spider sense or a wya to keep her from avoiding attacks erm

And yes they were exact doubles it was a major point of the story.

Heck they said the Swordsman from that alternate reality fought and acted the exact same way as the original. The Coal Tiger was proven the exact match of Black Panther. These beings were in every shape and form the same as the originals. Heck it is why they couldn't exist in the same reality for too long without going insane.


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Oh well it is too late to edit it in so I'll just go ahead and add this is on as my seventh post


Appratnyl Blood isn't need as much as you think Roldz:
Vision doesn't have blood and he was phasing through the wall when he got hit:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/...ionownedzb4.jpg

So now I've show my sword cutting through a tornado, through energy, through cosmic flame, and now a phased Vision. What more proof do you need that my sword will cut your mist form. erm


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Wolverine has been given them by Shield before when he has been sent out on missions and that Dane has built his own means yes Shield does have them and I can get it

Then explain why some of the shield helicarrier agents or high ranking official gets mind raped everytime someone like exodus or X-men attacks..
- This just shows not every heli-carrier carries this equipment..
- Hacking the computer, then reading the blue prints and finding so called psi-dampeners recalibrating it for his use or finding parts of it requires more than 10 min..
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/...nowledgeoq2.jpg
Well it just shows how lotech that shiar ship is stick out tongue ..
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9435/bkcomputerhj7.jpg
I dont see him hacking, he just repaired it, a familiar tech unlike shields advance technological tech..
quote:
You are using the Collective the thing that killed all of Alpha flight as proof that you can do it

Im just showing you that Warbird binary form is still accessible via right powersource..
quote:
The point is it is Broken and you are going off the idea that somehow, somewhere your symbiote has run across something similar to this even though it comes from a different Universe. Tell me how you can guarantee that it even has a remote idea of what it is doing beyond saying it has vast knowledge you can not. Heck show me where Backlash has even close to the power to do what you want and I'll show you a banned character.

Repairing somethin mentally is not that far fetch..

The symbiote is not looking for a star/wormhole/whitehole and make another link.. But rather restablish/repair that broken link..

Its like when Danes and team 7 gen factor stolen/taken, he was still able to access his powers via the symbiotes.

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?i...iondeathnr1.jpg
The symbiotes link mentally link to the stolen gen factor and allowed Dane access to its powers.. During fires from heaven saga..

Backlash gen-factor is also amp by the symbiotes.. Meaning it increased its potency..
quote:
You do realize I'm not stealing your soul until after you are dead and just for laughs you do realize my blade is magic I would love for you to show me a scan of him resisting magic because if you can not then your Soul Is Mine.

Soulbinder is magic.. He resisted its soul sucking abilities..

Strength: My char. is a lot stronger
Absorbsion: Makes the blastfield usefull a no, + it also amps my char..

Ahh, thats as far as im gonna go.. i hope its not to late..lol eek!


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Originally posted by Newjak
Oh well it is too late to edit it in so I'll just go ahead and add this is on as my seventh post


Appratnyl Blood isn't need as much as you think Roldz:
Vision doesn't have blood and he was phasing through the wall when he got hit:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/...ionownedzb4.jpg

So now I've show my sword cutting through a tornado, through energy, through cosmic flame, and now a phased Vision. What more proof do you need that my sword will cut your mist form. erm

I quess ive got time.. Darn..lol

It looks like he materialized after coming out the wall..

so no.. he didnt hit someone phased..hehe

Ohh, im referring to the soul sucking technique..
it looks like its needing blood shed..


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whew . . . CLOSE fight . . .

glad i'm not judging this one. smile


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whew . . . CLOSE fight . . .

glad i'm not judging this one. smile
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Quit posting in match threads. Use this:
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You had me so excited Bada. I thought you might have been a judge and you posted your verdict sad


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You had me so excited Bada. I thought you might have been a judge and you posted your verdict sad
I'm not sure what you mean.... confused


Edit: I am a judge in this match.


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No one had posted in over 8 hours before you brought it up Bada ... and, frankly, it didn't look like anyone had anything else to say ... until now.

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No one had posted in over 8 hours before you brought it up Bada ... and, frankly, it didn't look like anyone had anything else to say ... until now.

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I'm not sure what you mean.... confused


Edit: I am a judge in this match.
Than Vote already stick out tongue


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Than Vote already stick out tongue
The match is over?


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The match is over?
Yes it ended last night hence why I haven't replied to Roldz stick out tongue


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Yes it ended last night hence why I haven't replied to Roldz stick out tongue


Give him a break, he's trying to word his vote diplomatically so you don't get upset when he uses euphemisms to basically say you got uber-pwned.


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