Re: Re: Odin (with reality gem), Onslaught, Apocalypse, and Korvac vs One Celestial
So can Korvac he could have wiped out an entire races existance just by waving his hand. Korvac can time travel and reboot time just by waving his hand.
Combine that with Onslaught and you have a dangerous combination and thats excluding the other two.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Odin (with reality gem), Onslaught, Apocalypse, and Korvac vs One Ce
are you high?Apocs powers are derived from celestial technology,there's a good chance they'd be ablketo depower him with a wave of their hand.or using a 100 ft tall remote...
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All the tech does is increase his powers they would beat Poccy is simply because they are more powerful than he is. If he could use the tech to become as powerful as they are it wouldnt help the Celestials even if they created the tech.
using that logic Frankeinstein monster should be weaker than the creator, but of course the question is wether Apoc can become powerful enough to beat the Celestials.
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Which he can't....and That Frankentstein thing is kinda bad as an exampole,as Frankenstiens creator couldn't manipulate matter or reality on a global scale....
Also,without his tech Apoc was killed by a bullet to the head...
Yes im aware of that, but its the principle. Just because you create something does not neccesarily mean you can depower it.
If Apoc were able to make himself as powerful as a Celestial them knwoing the tech wont make a difference.
Bro Apoc gets his tech he gets 1weeks prep and his back up by three other people. Apoc getting injured by a bullet to his head even without tech is PIS...and like I said he gets his tech anyway.
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He has 10 000 years worth of time and he's still the weakest on his team,1 week won't make a difference.Also,my point is that A celestial can conjure up all the equipment they need to beat him...Apoc is useless.
A celestial can one-shot him,and he has no way of harming them,i mean Odin had 3ooo years of prep for the celestials and still got shit-stomped..
Onslaught never displayed power close to the celestials so it's vitually worthless,i mean if worst comes to worst the celestial can bowl the whole planet into the sun..
thats just a statement with nothing to back it up. Onslaught is a combination of Xavier and Magneto and Apoc has pwned xavier in mind powers. Apoc has also completely pawned a powerful Eternal and has taking several hero teams at the same time. So you're just chatting rubbish
As far as I know Onslaught become more powerful than a Clestial when he joined with Nate and Franklin. Something tells me if Onslaught joins with Apoc boosted by Celestsial tech, Korvac who can wipe out and entire civilzation by waving his hand and Odin with a reality gem he can become more powerful than a Celestial....I hope
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I don't know wtf ups with you tonight,but clearly you don't comprehend what a knat Apoc is in comparison to a celestial .You have been saying that Apoc,with a week of prep may be able to become as powerful as a celestial when after 10 000 years he is still herald-level at best.Also,was the eternal knocked out?did you even realise that the author had a celestial being phased by a stab wound when they have a healing factor so good they can survive molecular dispersion?Also how about Apocs lower showings?You can't just pick and choose the showings you want..
Well,clearly you don't know much on the subject if that is the case,i'm sorry to say.Also,when have i said that the team doesn't win?All i said was that Apoc being here is stupid,as your forcing your team to waste time amping someone who has no place being here,when they could use it amping themeselves.
However,as you have stated that you made this thread specifically fopr Celestials to lose i'm not going to be bothered arguing with someone who made this with their defeat in mind.
Apocalypse, once, one single time, possibly psiblasted Xavier, causing him pain. Xavier is conscious when next seen a page or two after thus, logically was not knocked out. Random psiblast causing pain doesn't make for a superior psi. Also irrelevant considering Xavier's mental powers would likely be nothing to a Celestial.
Ikaris fought like an idiot in the fight with Apocalypse. He is a non-factor.
Argh, no im not saying that he can become as powerful as a Clestial in a week he cant. What I was saying if he could The Celestial knowing the tech isnt going to help.
You really need to calm down.
Well this is the thing. It looked like it hurt alot and it looked like Apoc wasnt even trying.
That would depend on how much it hurt. You dont neccesarily have to ko somebody to be superior eventhough that is a good indication.
Well I was under the impression that Onlsught was a combo of Magneto and Xavier, since it seems that Apoc pawned Xavier or at least was a match for Xavier, Apoc would be a good edition to Onslaught.
Didnt Apoc fight Nate?
Ok elaborate, its just seemed Apoc was more powerful.
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I'm just going to repost my rationale against ascribing Apocalypse some super telepath status:
1) It was a one-time occurrence, the sole time I've seen Apocalypse use such telepathy if it was such telepathy.
2) There's no conclusiveness as to whether it was even telepathy. Telepathy is not normally accompanied by sound effects. Energy blasts on the other hand may be.
3) Xavier wasn't even rendered unconscious. It wasn't a "toe-to-toe" telepathic fight, it was one possibly telepathic sucker punch.
and...
4) And? How exactly does that show superior telepathic power or skill to Xavier. Telepaths are not automatically immune to any and all forms telepathy. Telepaths do constantly screen out thoughts with their powers, but they do not constantly defend. (please log in to view the image)
Emma telepathically sucker punching Nate does not make her a superior psi - despite her proclamation.
This is what Xavier is capable of: (please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)
And he's basically done this not once, not twice, but thrice. Among other things. So no, I would most definitely not put Apocalypse in the same league telepathically, let alone above.
With regards to Nate vs Apocalypse, not in a telepathic face-off as far as I'm aware.
Ikaris was the Prime Eternal, as such his abilities as an Eternal should have been amplified. He was defeated by being stabbed.
Sersi, not the Prime Eternal, has had her arm atomized, subsequently escaped, remained intangible as she plummeted through the atmosphere, crashed into the sublevels of the Pentagon, and then regenerated her arm. She's also reconstituted herself from being atomized. She also helped a race form a Uni-Mind to defeat the Collector, an Elder of the Universe.
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Odin (with reality gem), Onslaught, Apocalypse, and Korvac vs One Celestial
Jul 23rd, 2007 07:02 PM
.You have been saying that Apoc,with a week of prep may be able to become as powerful as a celestial when after 10 000 years he is still herald-level at best.Also,was the eternal knocked out?did you even realise that the author had a celestial being phased by a stab wound when they have a healing factor so good they can survive molecular dispersion?Also how about Apocs lower showings?You can't just pick and choose the showings you want..
