i thought nver was already banned twice. he started another account or so i thought. could this be his third account. you are prolly right and he cant just stay away.
some things dont change as he is getting owned again just like he used to be.
i understand fully what u are saying. is like michael actually gets all these breaks and passes when its never stated he has gods power and is supreme. but he constantly questions marvels statements while gives michael the benefit of the doubt when the actual definition goes against what hes saying. double standard anyone?
Wow this is some thread, wish i knew more about the original Ion, and actually had time to read about him, but Two Worlds beckons, so I must take heed.
Tell me you didn't just use the Marvel.com site as evidence
And that was not what I was asking . I was asking the issue where it says the gems might destroy everything because of the context .
Again , I want the issue so I can see the context in which this statement is made . I haven't exactly read this one yet so I can't pronnounce myself .
You think Reed doesn't know the difference between Universe and Multiverse or Omniverse ? That's even more laughable .
Just the fact that they can create a Universe from scratch still makes them , logically , Universal . If they can create a Multiverse from scratch then they would be Multiversal otherwise they are just Universal .
As for the one with destroying all realities , I'd certainly like the context , since I can't pronnounce myself without reading it . Just an issue number would be fine .
Just the fact that he turned the UN upon it's bearer you think makes it Multiversal ? Not really , not by a longshot . If the attack would have been stated to destroy the Multiverse ( Since it's destruction area variates) and the IG would have overpowered it , not turning it upon it's bearer which could mean many things , then it would have been Multiversal . Otherwise , I don't see the problem .
Merging two Universes is Multiversal ? No , merging two Multiverses in Multiversal not this . It's still Universal since it implies Universal manipulation .
The last scan again says Universal . It's like you are posting evidence in my favor
Again , I really hope you're not using the Marvel.com site as evidence .
And you do realize that Absolute Omnipotence means that he is stronger than the Living Tribunal , right ? Absolute Omnipotence means being able to do anything and nobody being able to surpass you , only in the best case match you .
Did you just ignore my evidence ?
The fact that he considered himself the Supreme Being in all the Universes means how exactly that he has Multiversal power ? This just proves that in each Universe he would go , he would be unbeatable but in no way does it prove he has Multiversal power , especially since he states in the same scan that he has Universal power .
It's logical that all the gems combined posess more force than one gem , but it's still Universal .
Universes , not Multiverses . It's still Universal power .
Nope
I haven't read all the arcs but I do know what there is to know about their power .
It's not stated in that scan that the attack could have taken the Multiverse . Besides , as I pointed out , it didn't overpower it , it turned it upon it's bearer , and even if he did there is no proof that he overpowered a Multiversal attack since it isn't stated that it can take out a Multiverse .
Yes it is
Nope
It must have different power outputs otherwise the area which it destroys will be the same , which is not the case here . And again , it can be debated if it destroyed a Universe or a Multiverse .
But none of this matter since , as I said before , IG wasn't shown to be stronger than UN , it's just stated that it turned it on the user of the weapon , and at that time the attack wasn't stated to be able to destroy the Multiverse .
That analogy is pretty illogical , especially since turning the weapon on it's bearer could mean many things . If it said that the Multiversal nullification attack has been overpowered then this discussion wouldn't take place but that isn't the case .
Didn't you say it was Absolute Omnipotence ? How can anyone be above it ?
There's absolutley no specification of what method he would use so you're just assuming .
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Using Marvel.com site as evidence , again ? That's rather funny and sad at the same time .
Again , it says Absolute Omnipotence ? Then nobody would be stronger than him , and at best somebody would be able to match him , not more .
You're assuming that it isn't , when nothing is stated .
I could say the same . You're twisting statements and events to suit you better without any conclusive evidence besides some statements which can be interpreted different ways .
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