Gotta love how the attempts to low-ball a feat just backfire on the Marvel dick riders. Let's assume the author did indeed intend for Superman's fist hitting the ground to be a factor, which is a circular argument. Let's even pretend that it had just as much to do with it as the jump. A massively weakened Superman who can't even fly, destroyed a planet by hitting it once casually with his fist then jumping off it. Even if we pretend Superman was at full power, that's better than when Gladiator destroyed a planet. Which Marvel fanboys would hype up trying to make him>Superman so they can bring up him losing to their preferred Marvel characters. So even if we assume him hitting the ground and zero visible damage contributed just as much to destroying it as the jump, a massively weakened Superman greatly out performed a not weakened Gladiator.
Then the other arguments Hulkster is making only supports that Superman has dynamic strength, something Marvel dick riders, Hulk ones especially, have generally been arguing against despite the proof. Sometimes they're just arguing it's not the same as Hulk's (which is irrelevant since we're not arguing it's exactly the same) but most try arguing he doesn't have it at all.
I don't know if Hulkster argued against him having dynamic powers before (if I've seen it I've forgotten), but if he did, oh the irony of him so desperate to downplay Superman he argues for something he was against.
Reminds me of all those times carter said Amazo is trash, including arguing Wonder Woman stalemating him, only to argue Wonder Woman stalemating him was amazing when he needed it to be.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
He's trying to use DarkSaint's arguments against you, which I think was more a point DS was making against them trying to downplay Superman's jumping feat.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
I only consider what happened after Prime shattered the prison to be relevant. Even if we leave THAT out? There's still Earth 2 just appearing like that.
I mean, reality tends to be at least a little malleable at all times anyway. Otherwise reality warping wouldn't exist, but generally, if you want to narrow it down, what happens to the multiverse before their fight means that to me at least, it would be unfair to act like nothing was going on around them.
Not that I think many characters could replicate their feat, mind you.
I still feel like I'm not understanding you, sorry.
Prime was able to affect reality because Prime is just that strong. He's Superman without any kind of restraint, so naturally if you put him in a position where he alone can affect change, he's going to do so. The strength or lack of any universe doesn't really come in to it, for me.
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Also, a whole lot of you need to get out of your damn chairs. There's force involved in jumping. Energy transference. JFC.
Its not being fair or unfair. This is how a Superman feat is typically downplayed, imaginary proof of reality being unstable.
If you think reality was malleable, you should show the scan which shows it. I don't think any such scan exists. Until then I am not going to change my stance.
Even though crossovers are generally against the rules, I just wanted to see what people thought about how Surfer plus Storm blasting Darkseid to no avail but Superman has definitely done something punching Darkseid in the face.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
I mean, Superman bending reality was due to universe unstable just readers rationalize and imagination there havent any proof to support it
Superman can bending reality just by punching is what the comics showing to us
And like you said, Prime is superman without restrainting himself, he could bending reality just by punching it which showed in Teen Titans, So Supes could also bending reality is reasonable
I think it's just common sense. Heck, the book's writer is among the "rationalize and imagination" but I understand that writer comments aren't counted.
What are you talking about? Throughout the entire storyline never mentioned Supes bending reality was due to any unstability. On the contrary, Comics have solid proofs to supporting Superman bend reality
"This man of steel must break his bonds and bend reality to what he thinks is right. Gis only opposition is our superman" https://i.imgur.com/oViJlWy.jpg
So I already proved my point, Now its you should prove you point
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Jun 4th, 2019 04:55 AM
Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
